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08-25-2020, 08:03 AM | #2488 | |
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I always start with cardio - this allows the recovery process to begin as soon as I'm done lifting, then it's calorie time. I lose weight very fast, so this works best for me. |
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08-25-2020, 08:14 AM | #2489 |
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1 gallon does seem a bit excessive to me, but I'm sure it depends on your body and how you hydrate outside of the gym as well. I bring a 32 oz bottle of water and finish it during a workout and feel plenty hydrated but I also don't do more than 10 minutes of cardio at the end of my workouts. My partners and I lift almost exclusively...along with abs. We've managed to find cardio unnecessary for weight loss with our current routine is paired with intermittent fasting...but of course we aren't professional body builders either...and between the 3 of us, I'm the only one who has ever needed to lose weight.
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08-25-2020, 08:20 AM | #2490 |
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PS: debate time. I filmed myself over the winter for squat to get some feedback on how low I should be going. My workout partners suggest was parallel is all the lower I should be going. However I was challenged on that by quite a few folks suggesting I need to be going much, much lower.
Have been doing so, which has also cut down my max by a lot. No knee issues but then a >50 year old guy that works out with us in the mornings suggested I shouldn't even be going parallel. This guy was a competitive body builder in his day...he's still stronger than us. What's the consensus? This is where I was previously going....now going significantly lower. |
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08-25-2020, 08:35 AM | #2492 |
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I've also injured my back (hence the belt) but injured it on deadlift. I've never had a problem with squat as I instinctively keep my back rigid and upright. Regardless I certainly understand the argument for parallel.
I guess I'm hoping to understand the reason so many have suggested I need to be going BELOW parallel. |
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08-25-2020, 11:03 AM | #2495 |
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I watched the video. When you squat your weight needs to be further towards your heels. Weight distribution is too far forward, this most likely makes it feel awkward to get low enough. This can feel awkward for some because it feels like you're going to fall backwards. Start with low weight just to get the rhythm down and slowly up it from there.
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08-25-2020, 11:09 AM | #2496 | ||
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Personally, when it comes to squats and deadlifts I think each individual needs to customize their form to what feels right, as well as using proper fundamentals of course. Foot placement, shoe type. bar placement, how far down you squat, it all depends on what feels safe for me personally. If the weight is dictating my form, I stop. I dealt with sciatica last year which taught me to increase weight slowly and not until I'm really really ready. However, I do like to push myself of course. Just out of curiosity, do you run before your workout? I ask because you do look a little stiff during your squat. Running for 5 mins (1/2 mile) signals to the body it's time to workout, it's a very basic thing, and often overlooked, but to me it's extremely important. Quote:
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This was 305 as I recall....I'm usually finishing my set at 345 at the gym but these bumper plates are a bit limiting. Quote:
Now on deadlift I just stick at 225, won't increase and instead just work on form. It's so not worth it. So so soooo not worth it. Quote:
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08-25-2020, 12:15 PM | #2498 |
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What can you maybe do instead of a run or jog before you squat next time? I'm guessing jump rope is also out?
I will never lift any weight again without being somewhat out of breath from some sort of cardio first, ever again... the body and all the systems just aren't ready for exertion yet, for me, especially at 40. Ended yesterday's season with 275 x 6 then 295 x 5. My goal was the 400's this yr but covid put me back. I hear ya with the 225 DL. That's wise for sure. Just reading your story about our hip made my heart rate go up - sounds really scary. Form, form, form - then slowly add more weight is my approach now. Btw, I love deadlifts! |
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I'll have my buddies get a video of my current form next tuesday for a more accurate critique. (really, critique me I don't mind lol!) |
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08-25-2020, 12:20 PM | #2500 |
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If your lower back can't take a light jog - you may want to stick to 225 max squat as well... something isn't properly aligned in there it sounds like. Stretching can usually get it right though - I was given 4 pages of specific stretches for my sciatica pain - 20 mins before and after bed - fixed my bulging disc good as new... but it depends on of course on severity etc....
I look for natural movement when ppl lift - if it looks forced at all or unnatural at all I think it's unsustainable and potential for injury. |
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Since Monday is international chest day, and it was chest day, I ran instead yesterday
Tonight muscle beach was PACKED so I did bi/chest. I felt GOOD there, but driving home started seeing spots, and CIA was calling from +52 (Mexico) so I checked and blood was down to 52. Coincidence? I think not! Now my belly is overfull and my shoulder hurts
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08-31-2020, 09:57 AM | #2503 |
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Body is getting a little run down. I definitely need an off day, but I'm too stubborn to take one. I think I might be close to a 3 week streak of no days off. With that said 1 day a week I usually go lighter with a lot of cardio, so consider that my partial off day. Anyways, vacation is about 12 days out. So I'm going to bring the calories down and see how it plays!
This morning was back/triceps. Had a fantasy football draft party last night, so my stomach is in shambles this morning. Other then that it was a solid day! |
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AHHHH, Monday morning back at work, sitting my ass in a chair, in the a/c
I don't do manual labor all that well, but spent ALL DAY Saturday and Sunday framing a new chicken coop with my nephew. I just hope that sore forearm from swinging a hammer resolves itself before Wednesday. |
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I guess the lesson for me was, the older I get the more I risk a major injury I'm going to really really regret. Watching the Ronnie Coleman doc convinced me (not that I'm qualified to be within 100 miles of a gym with Ronnie Coleman in it) I'm also planning to do some traveling so need no-brainer routines I can do in a hotel room or outside without equipment (or with water jugs or whatever - 2 five galloners do a great job!) |
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09-01-2020, 02:26 AM | #2507 |
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The Chaddening I prefer on/off the supps + relying on creatine from meat. It's also allows my body to flush any added water weight.
GrussGott I'll put my wife on my shoulders for a set of 4/5 squats on the road or use suitcases as well... I always travel with 30 lbs bands etc. Today was back/bi's - I love a good back day... finished up with lunges - 80 lbs, just enough. As another member mentioned - personally I always take 1 day off but I understand not taking a day off as well. That 1 day off is when everything heals including the nervous system, but I love no days off too. |
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09-01-2020, 08:26 AM | #2508 | |
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With that said I plan my workouts that way I am not directly overworking any muscle group. Day 1: Back/Tricep Day 2: Shoulders/biceps Day 3: Legs Day 4: Chest Day 5: Arms Day 6: Legs Day 7: Repeat So basically on every 3rd day I hit legs because my upper body starts to get over worked. Usually one of those leg days is more cardio focused with lighter/high rep lifts just to get blood in them because their usually still a little sore from the heavier leg day. Usually works fine for me as long as caloric intake is at a decent level. Where I'm going to start to hit is wall is this and next week where I bring my calories down. I'll probably get more sore and tired the next two weeks. |
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