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As I mentioned in my last post, that is the main reason I wanted an SUV. I care little about the storage space and seating capacity. If they made an even smaller 2-seater that had a high seating position and AWD for the winter, I'd probably get that one. So a regular wagon is the total opposite of what I want, but yet you are telling me that's what my car is. A regular wagon has the same low seating position as a regular car, but just has the expanded cargo capacity of an SUV. I looked in my trunk tonight, and there doesn't seem to be much more storage space back there than my dad's Prius. Take that M coupe, raise it up about 6 inches to give it more ground clearance along with a higher seating position, style it like a mini X4/X6, and then give it AWD with all season tires, and that would be the perfect car for me. Unfortunately no such car currently exists, so instead I have my X1. For me, smaller = better. |
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03-11-2014, 09:01 AM | #114 |
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Because that is what it is. Even mini-suv's like the RAV-4, CRV, and Hyundai Santa-Fe tower over. A PT Cruiser was parked in front of me and it was pretty much the same shape, size and clearance. Also my windows are lower than that of a Toyota Camry. All these suggest not an SUV at all. Actually there is nothing to suggest an SUV. The seating isn't higher. I guess if you move your seat all the way up it might be but if you put it in the lowest position it is definitely car like.
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03-11-2014, 09:12 AM | #115 |
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You're 100% correct. It's an SAV...
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03-11-2014, 09:16 AM | #116 | |
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I'm guessing you feel the Forester is a big wagon too? If you want to see it as a wagon, that's cool, but ask your friends, family or just the next person you see at the gas station what it is, it won't be a wagon. This whole argument reminds me of things like the CLS and 6GC being called coupes. The only people that believe that are the ones who own them, all others know that they're sedans. |
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03-11-2014, 09:40 AM | #120 |
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An M Coupe is a wagon? You mean the Z3 they made into a hatchback?
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03-11-2014, 10:07 AM | #121 | |
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Unfortunately, I think the X1 is a bit of a gateway drug for my wife, as she clearly sees it as an SUV and wouldn't mind the X4 next. The X1 is at least a car like drive, while the X3's we drove felt a bit too big and ponderous for my taste. But it's her car, if she enjoys it, that's what counts. |
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03-11-2014, 12:24 PM | #123 | |
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Wife did not want something so low like a wagon for her daily driver...( it was to replace her Suburban...) We finally settled on an X1, a little higher up, still fun to drive... (BTW, she kept her Suburban and now the X1 is my teenage daughter's daily driver...) |
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03-11-2014, 02:25 PM | #124 |
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The seating is much higher than a regular car like the 3 series or 5 series. I can't sit in one of those cars for more than a half hour before I start getting back pain because my feet are not below me but are instead in front of me. In the X1 I sit like I do in a chair with my feet below me, which is what I need because of my bad back. That was the whole reason why I was looking at a car like this. If it were not for my bad back, I'd most likely be driving a sports car.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._position.html The 3 series has a height of 56.3 inches and 5.5 inches ground clearance The X1 has a height of 60.8 inches and 7.6 inches ground clearance The X3 has a height of 65.4 inches and 8.3 inches ground clearance The X1 is in the middle and is much closer to an SUV in height and ground clearance than a sedan or wagon. Keep in mind that most of the extra 4.6 inches of height in the X3 is due to the taller roof rails (look at a picture of the X3 and you'll see what I am talking about) Last edited by Eric5273; 03-11-2014 at 02:42 PM.. |
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03-11-2014, 03:27 PM | #125 |
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On the other hand, a 3GT has a height of 59.4 inches, which is *very* close to an x1 and I don't hear people suggesting the 3GT is a SUV. It also weighs more, and is longer and wider.
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It's actually not due to the roof rails at all. The graphic clearly shows it is measuring to the center top of the roof.
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So X1 is much closer to the height of a small wagon than it is to the height of a very small SUV. The seating in the X1 is much lower than an SUV. Coming from a car-based SUV like the Volvo XC 90 it is way lower in the X1. I think it is probably close to the wife's VW Wagon. |
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03-11-2014, 08:10 PM | #129 |
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I'm good with the size of the X1; it's small enough to be handy, but big enough for four median people, or haul enough stuff for vacation.
And it's a sweet handler with good power, if not a purist's idea of a sportscar or coupe. So it's a pretty fair compromise in a lot of useful roles...which led to our purchase. Moon |
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03-12-2014, 06:09 AM | #130 |
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Quite frankly, does it really make a difference what it is called??? If you look at the car, you like its looks, and most important it serves your needs AND is comfortable for long trips then buy it. If it doesn't accomplish the above, look elsewhere. For me, one of the primary needs was being short enough to fit into more parking spaces in city environments, along with its very reasonable price, along with it being all things BMW. And I like the higher seating position. I wish the rear trunk space was wider, and I'm not in love with the look of the car, but the pros outweigh the cons, and that's all that really counts.
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This thread is lol.
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