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| 07-17-2012, 06:34 PM | #3 |
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That's a shame about the electric power assist in the RWD version, as it was the one we considered. Academic, as we're no longer in the market.
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| 07-17-2012, 06:56 PM | #5 |
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How soon b4 we see diesel.. & 8spd gearbox..?
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| 07-17-2012, 07:08 PM | #6 | |
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On another note... I wonder why the 6 doesn't get the 8 speed gearbox... I mean if they can fit it on the N55 in the new F30, why not this? |
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| 07-17-2012, 07:28 PM | #7 |
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Not soon enough for me, which is a shame. I wanted to order a diesel one now, but couldn't wait so I ordered the xDrive instead.
I'm very happy to be able to still have the good ol' fashion hydraulic steering in our X1. I did choose Servotronic, though, so it will be interesting to see if that option will totally ruin the hydraulic steering feel or enhance it. Can't wait to take delivery. |
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| 07-17-2012, 07:29 PM | #8 |
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I'm glad reviewers seem to like the car, which isn't a surprise. As the rumored 2-series Gran Coupe isn't coming out for another 3 years or so, the X1 sDrive 28i will most likely be the car that we replace our E46 325i sedan with.
As I've mentioned before, the F30 is simply too big -- it's almost the size of our old E39 525i, which we promptly replaced with the 325i because of its size.
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| 07-17-2012, 11:06 PM | #11 | |
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In 2003, the E46 came in 325i and 330i variants. I believe the 328i was phased out in 2001.
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| 07-17-2012, 11:34 PM | #12 |
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From one of the reviews alone you can see just how retarded BMW is for not bringing the new 1er Hatch [F20] to North America. Give the people what they really want BMW. Get with the program and maybe you can own the segment.
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| 07-18-2012, 01:12 AM | #13 | |
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Those people typically flood forums, but don't buy cars. Those of @ or near 40~45 grew up in hatches here in NA. BMW's marketing/research has never understood this metric. (ie: Hockey practice in the eighties, didn't require a 4klbs SUV, it was 3 kids in a Escort GT) It seems only recently has BMW started to take notice... BTW... I would love to see a X1 xDrive 35d, M-Sport manual by Dec/Jan. I think BMW could get an advanced purchase/buying, (if we get enough) for such a vehicle and we can get a "special edition" w/manuals made..(?)
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| 07-18-2012, 01:23 AM | #14 |
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All these reviews confirm my impression about this car - its not really an suv, and its not really a wagon. It still has the good ol bmw engine, drivetrain and tranny, so at least it drives good. 4.3" shorter than a cr-v, thats just weird.
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| 07-18-2012, 02:04 AM | #15 |
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Not a chance. To certify a manual would be an extra 2 million dollars- EPA and DOT crash testing. The diesels are 12 months out and will be equipped with 8 speed autos as they should be. The take rate on manuals in sporty cars has plummeted and a manual diesel is less than sporty... I am also not sure why everyone is stuck on the manual with a diesel- doesn't drive like a gas engine and the 8 speed gets better EPA numbers which is the marketing point of the diesel anyways.
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| 07-18-2012, 06:46 AM | #16 | |
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Now I have to decide if I trust BMW enough to wait for the 62mpg diesel X1 if they really DO bring it over, or just get the present X1, where I have to pick between the N20 I felt was underpowered and boring in the X3 but I get the new 8spd, or take the more fun N55 but be saddled with the older 6spd which further demotes the hwy mpg more than the 6cyl already would. |
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| 07-18-2012, 07:15 AM | #17 | |
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The N20 in the X1 doesn't feel underpowered or boring- it feels lively and honestly not 1 second slower than the N55 powered 35i. The weight difference and balance are what make the N20 feel better in this application. I didn't like the 35i, and that 6 speed is a throwback and feels very dated now. All models understeer when pushed, especially the M sport with its staggered wheels. Having talked with the individual that made the announcement the diesels are coming- he said that they will be coming and going into multiple models- more specifically the models that sell. Those of us reading between the lines (and expression) saw that as 3 (sedan) and more than likely X1 (cheapest BMW should sell well) with the 4 cylinder and the X3 and future X5 with the six cylinder. MINI if you listen to talk around the water cooler is currently testing the 4 cylinder in the Countryman. |
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| 07-18-2012, 08:22 AM | #18 | |
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Well. According to all 3 reviews, the 8-speed in the N20 makes it feel like it's as quick as the N55, and not lethargic at all. One of the reviewers said that this is due to the "rapid fire" shifting of the 8-speed, which is aided by the programming of the Eco Mode. In Eco Mode the X1 shifts to the 8th gear quickest. And if I'm reading one of the reviewers correctly, that quick shifting to the 8th gear helps the X1 feels fast.
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| 07-18-2012, 02:09 PM | #20 | |
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| 07-18-2012, 06:06 PM | #21 | |
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She took one look at the X1 Sdrive28i specs and saw that it didn't get the mileage she wanted. Also, she's not partial to SUV/SAV/etc. type cars, so the X1 styling didn't appeal. Don't get me wrong - I would rather have another BMW instead of an Audi, but they have chosen to ignore the premium small car segment in this country. Maybe right now sales aren't too hot, but watch what happens over the next few years.
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| 07-18-2012, 06:17 PM | #22 | |
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Now what's this about not getting a dipstick? First I find that the X1 doesn't come with real tires, please don't say now I can't even change my own oil? |
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