F1 2022: Japanese GP - Suzuka (Oct 9)

[Artemis]

05:45 - 08:28 and 12:36 - 14:14:

[Mr Pete]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

No way will Max let of, nor should he. He is there to win EVERY weekend. I'd like to see Checo win Mexico but I want Max to win 3 of the next 4 and in Mexico if he isn't going to win, P2 is good to further nail down most points a driver has ever scored.

I can't see Max as the type to not go flat out win mode every weekend. But if he 'let's' Checo win, you know he'll make sure to have fastest lap of the race lol

[DrFerry]

The "Flying Dutchman" does it again. World Champion X 2! He's definitely a master of the wet. Congratulations Max..

[DrFerry]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Love is in the Tokyo air !

Dang... how 'bout that little black dress. The power to stop me in my tracks on this thread..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

Dang... how 'bout that little black dress. The power to stop me in my tracks on this thread..

Brazilian my friend ..

[NickyC]

Congrats to Max! Glad to see him win the Championship there after such a commanding performance at Suzuka, what a year he's had!

[MontyB1]

A few have questioned why I and others mentioned the FIA messed up on the points. It seems several team principles have similar views including Christian H.

In short if a race is reduced for any reason then the points are pro-rated as everyone thought it said in the rules but now will be fixed for next year, seems simple enough.

Teams suggest points rule change will be fixed for next year.

Christian Horner says F1 made a mistake with revised points rules

[Artemis]

"David Tremayne: Why Max Verstappen's majestic run to his second title should finally silence his doubters":
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...rICJgcI62.html

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Brazilian my friend ..

From what I took after watching the race is that it was Checo that sealed the championship for Max by pressuring Chas into a mistake knowing of the 1.75's front tyre weakness and it paid off with Chas leaving the track with the front running away from him and suffering the penalty for that otherwise it would have to have gone into Austin. Max needs to buy Checo another tequila, a big one

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

"David Tremayne: Why Max Verstappen's majestic run to his second title should finally silence his doubters":
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...rICJgcI62.html

The main long straight at COTA is 1.1 KM ! Don't see who can beat MAX at COTA..

[joao.toscano]

MAX VERSTAPPEN IS THE 2022 WORLD CHAMPION! 🏆

His second title comes with four races left to go 👏

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The main long straight at COTA is 1.1 KM ! Don't see who can beat MAX at COTA..

Win number 13 for Max on the way to match the record in a season coming right up, 13 lucky for some!

[joao.toscano]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by joao.toscano

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Yeah the battle is on now to secure that second spot in the championship for Checo...it's the least Max can do for his teammate and friend Checo 11

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

From what I took after watching the race is that it was Checo that sealed the championship for Max by pressuring Chas into a mistake knowing of the 1.75's front tyre weakness and it paid off with Chas leaving the track with the front running away from him and suffering the penalty for that otherwise it would have to have gone into Austin. Max needs to buy Checo another tequila, a big one

Exactly my friend . But MAX pulled a 27 sec.+ gap with no help from anyone ..
The whole race , It was MAX's race . MAX is unbeatable in the rain .
I see he runs now even better with more control in the rain ...

It isn't the first time that Charlie fails under pressure .At that moment Checo was a lot faster .

I can see that Ferrari (generally) is in trouble with their front tyres wear ..
In the beginning , the RB18 had the same issue . But A. Newey fixed that with a lighter front end .

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The main long straight at COTA is 1.1 KM ! Don't see who can beat MAX at COTA..

I'm still trying to take in the fact my friend that Christian H pointed out the fia's anomalies in the points totting up for the JGP also thanking them for the outcome of it, oh well all's well that ends well

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Win number 13 for Max on the way to match the record in a season coming right up, 13 lucky for some!

This my friend . THIS IS MAX => https://www.total-motorsport.com/max...1-driver-ever/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

This my friend . THIS IS MAX => https://www.total-motorsport.com/max...1-driver-ever/

I think that's a fair compilation of Max's journey since starting with Toro Rosso at the age of 17 being the youngest driver to start F1, yet another record

[EdM5]

A few observations from the race:

• Max is a class of his own at the moment. Blistering fast and almost no mistakes, he reminds me of Schumacher at Ferrari. Expect many more wins from him.
• Perez is underrated as Max’ wingman. Probably finishing runner-up and the winner of two prestigious races. What more could RB want from him?
• Hamilton seems to have the upper hand over Russell since the summer break.
• Both clockwise and counter-clockwise, Suzuka is the best race track in the world!

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

A few have questioned why I and others mentioned the FIA messed up on the points. It seems several team principles have similar views including Christian H.

But the points weren't messed up by the FIA.
The way the rules are written just don't happen to correctly describe that which a lot of people think they should describe.

Actually if you read the sporting regulations literally, it's quite clear.
Its all in the sentence:
"If a race is suspended in accordance with Article 57, and cannot be resumed,"
So all those alternate points in the table, corresponding with how much of the race distance is driven, are only applicable if the race is stopped and hasn't been resumed in the maximum time limit.
That situation didn't happen in Suzuka.

But I agree that it would be better if the rules should say that those alternate points table should be applied when targeted race distance was not met because a suspension of the race took place anywhere during the race, even if it's restarted after the suspension. Less driven laps, less points, but I'm saying that from a spectator point of view.
But what the real/original intention of that rule was is always difficult to retrieve. Why did the writer feel it was necessairy to specifically write: "and cannot be resumed"?
Because in this case, the rules don't meet the expectations of people because something is not written, but because something is written.
And that is always a difficult one to tackle.

Because there is something to say for when the race is restarted, to grand maximum points.
When the race is stopped at some point and isn't restarted, one could argue that it messes with a teams/drivers strategy, and is therefore disadvantaged if their strategy was to be faster at the end of the race (and slower in the beginning) than vice versa. In that case it wouldn't be fair when a driver or team gained any profit from that.
However, if the race is restarted, they can switch tyres, and can even make some small (restricted) changes to the car, which can be used to tend to an alternate strategy. So that gives the team that had a previous strategy to be faster near the end of the race to adapt.
Who knows something like this played a role when choosing the final words that they used in the sporting regulations rulebook.

[joao.toscano]

TWO-TIME WORLD CHAMPION! 🏆

Max Verstappen claims his second F1 title after a rainy Japanese Grand Prix 🇯🇵

[NYG]

Lot's to catch up on in this thread but LETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTS FCKINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN GO MAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!