300c SRT8 kills a 335i

[NYBMW335]

Originally Posted by billmister

what a herb!... Brought up good point, how DID he know it was a 335i if he won the race.... I feel like pimp smacking that dude with his heavy, boxy looking car... They look like imitation of that other car what is it called?

I can care less how "fast" the STR8 is. In the end, your going home with your chrysler and i'm going home with my B....M....W

Sometimes people would come up with things to make kills seem cool, and or out of their league. One member on there board says something in the lines of, that just shows you how american power beats german... don't quote me but something in the near lines of that. it's on their page 2 or 3 or 4....
A DODGE Viper.... A DODGE VIPER!!! lost when racing a Z4 M!!!!! DODGE VIPER SURPASES BMW Z4 M HORSEPOWER, but lost (one of the tv shows with that england accent speaking dude).... Anyway BMW is more than just power, it's looks, power, drive, safety, comfort, etc... the list goes on.

No come on,STOP IT...Dont compare cars based on a TV show. A dodge Viper is an amazing track car, and it will destroy alot of BMW'S ON THE TRACK. Now you put this huge car, alot of HP in a GO-kart track and you got what TOP gear accomplished. Plus the guy driving the Viper was Understeering the whole track, it was driving the outside line, the Viper all he had to do was get on the inside line and drive at around 60-70mph and good luck z4 trying to pass that monster from the outside!!!!

[TahoeOG]

Originally Posted by NYBMW335

No come on,STOP IT...Dont compare cars based on a TV show. A dodge Viper is an amazing track car, and it will destroy alot of BMW'S ON THE TRACK. Now you put this huge car, alot of HP in a GO-kart track and you got what TOP gear accomplished. Plus the guy driving the Viper was Understeering the whole track, it was driving the outside line, the Viper all he had to do was get on the inside line and drive at around 60-70mph and good luck z4 trying to pass that monster from the outside!!!!

Yeah i hear you... I'm not underestimating the hp on those cars, i was using that to make a small point. Drivers are a big impact but even with a 500hp car, you can still suck... But in the end it's still a BMW. I tend to like Corvette, Mustung V8, etc... American Cars. Buy the feel of a German engeneered BMW is something else. There must be other imports out there better, i'm 100% happy with mine, and as for STR8... I never raced one, and never saw it's full potential, BUT if it have beet a 335i i DON'T BELIEVE it have by 1 car and 3/4ths... That sounds a bit crazy showing they are heavier and not much more hp than the 335.... It must of been 328i and the driver was maybe a manual and paniced in shifting, jumping of, etc.... And that TV show was TOP GEAR lol. Sick show

[BK]

Originally Posted by billmister

as for STR8... I never raced one, and never saw it's full potential, BUT if it have beet a 335i i DON'T BELIEVE it have by 1 car and 3/4ths... That sounds a bit crazy showing they are heavier and not much more hp than the 335.... It must of been 328i and the driver was maybe a manual and paniced in shifting, jumping of, etc.... And that TV show was TOP GEAR lol. Sick show

"Heavier and not much more HP"? SRT8 has way, way more HP than the 335i.

FWIW, I believe the original story, and I bet 9 times out of 10, an SRT8 beats the 335i in a straight line. It's a muscle car, and a pretty badass one. Does it really matter that it can beat a 335i at a stoplight?

OTOH, based on the SRT8 driver's story, my guess is that the 335i driver was not really racing because he was still in the break-in period. He was just toying around, but not flogging his car. We all do that sometimes.

[dxb335d]

i didnt think dodge vipers were track cars? a big heavy front moundted engine is not really ideally suited to a track, a mid engined moster would be better

[dxb335d]

also remember he might have been behind, (therefore saw it was a 335i) and was quick enough to pull past?

who knows

[6MTFTMFW]

Even if he did beat a 335i I am still not impressed. Why is it all american cars have to go to such huge displacements to get some horsepower. It's just sad and makes them look stuck in time and way behind on technology.

I would be impressed if they took that 6.1 and made it 610 horsepower or use 4.25 liter to get 425 horses. Othewise it's like we're still in the 70's.

I have driven SRT8 before - just to see what it's all about. It's stupid fast but not for a modern 6.1 liter v8. Give that engine to BMW to work on and it would smoke M5 all day long.

I know what someone's going to say that it would be $100k if BMW worked on that car.

Cheers

[johnc_22]

The SRT8 is a butt-ugly car. I didn't buy a 335i to street race and will probably laugh in the rear view mirror of anyone who bolts away from a stop light expecting me to join in. I don't need an ego boost by having pissing contests with knuckledraggers in muscle cars - just doesn't float my boat. At the end of the day I'd still prefer to be driving my BMW and getting reasonable gas mileage while still having close performance to the USS SRT8 boat. Street racing is stoopid and frankly a felony these days I believe, but to each his own.

[Driver72]

Guys, not biggie.
The SRT8 is a fast car. It runs 0-60 in 4.7 seconds time and time again.
It's relatively easy to launch, is an auto, and has all kinds of power.
With a properly driven 335i, the two cars would be close off the line with a slight advantage to the SRT-8.
The SRT8 is also running high 12's @ 107-109 mph stock.

Stock for stock they are a slightly faster car, big deal.

Now do the same race at 3000+ feet in elevation. The 335i will be the slightly faster car.
Do the same race at 6000+ feet in elevation and the 335i will WALK away.

I personally like the 300C SRT-8, just wish they made it 10-15% smaller.
That car with that engine that was 1 foot shorter, a bit skinnier and not quite as tall and weighing 3800-3900 pounds would be pretty awesome.

[ksfrogman]

I don't doubt that SRT8 is a badass musclecar. Not sure what we're trying to prove dragging it against a 335i.

I remember the first time I test drove a heavy Durango with the regular Hemi motor. Man, did that thing seem fast and feel mean for an SUV.

[ska///235i]

quote from the SRT-8 owner....
"Although, that being said, Germans can never replace Amercian Muscle"



Wow....is he serious

[SP330]

Originally Posted by ska

quote from the SRT-8 owner....
"Although, that being said, Germans can never replace Amercian Muscle"



Wow....is he serious

I guess he hasn't heard of AMG.

[bronco]

Originally Posted by SP330

I guess he hasn't heard of AMG.

No he hasnt.

[ska///235i]

is this what people call..."red necks" ????

[bimmer]

ha, how 2 ton Chrysler can take ultimate driving machine. even with that truck like engine 300 won't be a match for bimmer.

[bimmer]

Originally Posted by ska

quote from the SRT-8 owner....
"Although, that being said, Germans can never replace Amercian Muscle"



Wow....is he serious

let them live in this believe.....

[HyperM3]

Even after all the said and done, the two cars could be dead even BUT:

300CSRT8 = LESS THAN 10 mpg
335(w or w/out tuning) = GREATER THAN 25mpg

We win!

[NYBMW335]

Originally Posted by HyperM3

Even after all the said and done, the two cars could be dead even BUT:

300CSRT8 = >10 mpg
335(w or w/out tuning) = <25mpg

We win!

You got your signs backwards!!!

> greater than

< less than

[kuthair]

Originally Posted by NYBMW335

You got your signs backwards!!!

> greater than

< less than

I'm pretty sure he got em right. Less than 10 mpg would be piss poor and I don't know about you but I'm not getting more than 25 in my 335.

[HyperM3]

Originally Posted by NYBMW335

You got your signs backwards!!!

> greater than

< less than

I knew it looked funny but I thought I got it right.

[M4TW]

Just to add to what's been said about the engineering behind the cars.

The SRT8 uses a 6.1 liter displacement V8 HEMI to produce 425 hp. In cubic inches this is a 372. Its combined mileage is rated at 14.7 l/100km (16 mpg). It is an improvement, but not that big of one, over the muscle car era. So impressive hp but hardly an engineering marvel.

The 335i, by contrast, uses a 3.0 liter (183 cu in) displacement straight 6 twin turbo (no lag) to produce 300 hp (factory underrated) with 10.2 l/100km (23 mpg) combined mileage. Hello. That isn't a marvel. That's just plain sick.

[kuthair]

^ 23 mpg combined avg is high, imo. Also the lag is there, it's just subdued.

[HyperM3]

Originally Posted by kuthair

Also the lag is there, it's just subdued.

And Im like "Sup Dude" also to my turbos!