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      05-29-2020, 01:32 PM   #1
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ZF 8AT Transmission Fluid Questions

My E84 xDrive28i is at the 95.000 km mark and I would like to change the fluid. BMW sells a kit, however the transmission fluid in it is BMW brand, not the OEM ZF Lifeguard. I know that the transmission is extremely particular about the fluid.
  • Is the BMW fluid just the ZF under a different label? Or is it merely something similar?
  • If it’s not the same, is BMW's fluid still okay to use?
  • Where can I find the ZF fluid here in Canada?
I would like to get some input. Maybe some BMW techs on this forum can share their thoughts?

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      05-30-2020, 12:39 AM   #2
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I bought the zf fluid as part of a kit from fcpeuro. But there's also a liquimoly alternative which some users on the f3x forum have found to work just fine as well.

BMW's fluid is likely just rebranded ZF fluid fwiw. I also don't think the zf8 is all that picky about fluid as long as you don't go down the "lifetime" fluild route.
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As andino said, probably a rebranded fluid that's more expensive since it has a bmw logo on it.
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I bought the zf fluid as part of a kit from fcpeuro....
Me too. The kit was wonderful, a good price and comes with a lifetime warranty. I will never use the warranty but that doesn't mean others can't.

If you do it yourself be sure to follow the procedures to the letter to be sure you get all the fluid out and the right amount back in. There are some good videos too with the full procedure. It's not a simple drain and replace.

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Is the BMW fluid just the ZF under a different label?
100% yes.
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I bought the zf fluid as part of a kit from fcpeuro. But there's also a liquimoly alternative which some users on the f3x forum have found to work just fine as well.

BMW's fluid is likely just rebranded ZF fluid fwiw. I also don't think the zf8 is all that picky about fluid as long as you don't go down the "lifetime" fluild route.
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Me too. The kit was wonderful, a good price and comes with a lifetime warranty. I will never use the warranty but that doesn't mean others can't.

If you do it yourself be sure to follow the procedures to the letter to be sure you get all the fluid out and the right amount back in. There are some good videos too with the full procedure. It's not a simple drain and replace.

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100% yes.
Hello all,

First of all thank you for all your replies.
I am however in limbo as the information I am gathering is kind of confusing.

This is the reply from ZF USA:
Thanks for contacting ZF in regards to your X1. The ZF fluid would be the Lifeguard Fluid 6 or BMW Oil No. 8322 0142516 which is used in all ZF equipped BMW's with 6HP transmissions.


The FCP Euro kit is cheaper than the dealer and honestly I will go for it just to be sure I have the OEM oil.
The problem is however that:
- The ZF is saying that my AT is a 6HP and suggests fluid 6.
- The kit suggested by the FCP Euro says 8HP

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...-24118612901kt

My transmission is a 8 AT ZF, Should I presume that the code 8 refers to the 8 speed?
Also, is the kit missing the filter?



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Did they get confused with the X1 x35i which comes with the older zf6hp?
BTW there are a ton of zf8 transmission info over at the f30 forums. Also a wealth of info on the n20 engine which is shared with the X1 x28i.
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Did they get confused with the X1 x35i which comes with the older zf6hp?
BTW there are a ton of zf8 transmission info over at the f30 forums. Also a wealth of info on the n20 engine which is shared with the X1 x28i.
That's my presumption as well.
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Hello all,

First of all thank you for all your replies.
I am however in limbo as the information I am gathering is kind of confusing.

This is the reply from ZF USA:
Thanks for contacting ZF in regards to your X1. The ZF fluid would be the Lifeguard Fluid 6 or BMW Oil No. 8322 0142516 which is used in all ZF equipped BMW's with 6HP transmissions.


The FCP Euro kit is cheaper than the dealer and honestly I will go for it just to be sure I have the OEM oil.
The problem is however that:
- The ZF is saying that my AT is a 6HP and suggests fluid 6.
- The kit suggested by the FCP Euro says 8HP

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...-24118612901kt

My transmission is a 8 AT ZF, Should I presume that the code 8 refers to the 8 speed?
Also, is the kit missing the filter?



Thank you
The filter is integrated into the oil pan.

The 8 denotes 8-speed.

ZF8HP, 6HP, 5HP, etc

If you're not certain as to whether you have a 6 or 8 sp you can look at the documentation which came with your vehicle or run a VIN decoder.
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Since you're in Canada, you can check out Canadian Tire. They have a new line called OEM brand. One of them is European MV LV transmission oil. It listed ZF 6-8 speed/vitesses compatibility.
The maker for this brand is Rechochem IIRC.
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Since you're in Canada, you can check out Canadian Tire. They have a new line called OEM brand. One of them is European MV LV transmission oil. It listed ZF 6-8 speed/vitesses compatibility.
The maker for this brand is Rechochem IIRC.
Ordered the set in US already and got the OEM oil and pan.
Thank you for the reply.
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