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03-16-2019, 12:45 PM | #45 | |
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I mean imagine an M4 putting out 500 hp from the gas engine combined with another 150-200 from an electric motor. 650-700 hp, while getting 30-40 mpg cruising and being able to make a grocery run on electric only, saving that expensive premium fuel to be sipped while hammering the twisties. I don't think I'd mind that much at all. |
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Both companies are more than profitable at this point to stay alive and keep making cars. I'm sure the top dogs are eating well too. This will only benefit the shareholders and allow the top dogs to fatten their bellies unnecessarily.
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03-16-2019, 02:34 PM | #50 |
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Years ago I worked as an engineer for a company that was owned by Daimler. We did some "joint development" projects with the Daimler engineers which essentially meant "shut up and do what we say because we are Daimler and we know best." The level of arrogance on the Daimler engineering team was unlike anything I had seen before or have seen since. Good luck, BMW, you'll need it.
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This reads like Mercedes and BMW are teaming up in hopes of keeping up with the electric automobile trend. Maybe Tesla has tapped into a market that these two thought would never materialize - can they build a $35,000 electric that people will want? Desperate times/desperate measures....
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03-17-2019, 12:38 AM | #61 |
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this is what Sergio Marchionni was talking about in what is now an infamous presentation. automakers are basically losing profit because they spend so much money developing technology independently.com it's a good read if you have time:
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03-17-2019, 02:12 AM | #62 |
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The future could be challenging for existing brands on all fronts
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/j...igital-future/ |
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Maybe they wouldn't need to platform share if they didn't make 7 SUVs. All the money is spent on bumper designs, market research and advertising. Both companies are putting out worse and worse products. Reliability is tanking for both in recent years and neither of the brands has a personality to differentiate themselves. This joint venture is the final sign that they really don't care anymore. All car companies were started by engineers that wanted to make something unique or better. None of that spirit exists now; it's just stare holders thinking short term hype to make the price jump, and accountants as ceos who like to make things look good on paper to meet their next bonus checkpoint. Glad I drive an older bmw.
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Yes. When society is driving the market to autonomous cars (err... Pods), what is the point of differentiation.
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