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You can say what you'd like, but I was the fastest car in Blue group in the PCA today. There is no doubt that a 911 is a better track car than the X1, but there is also no doubt that in my second track day ever, I ran a 1:48 with stock suspension in my X1 - faster than every single 911 in Green and Blue groups. A better driver could undoubtedly shave a few more seconds off of that. And there is certainly no other crossover on earth that can do this - check out the data, the X1 is pulling a sustained 1G+ in turns. That's nuts for stock suspension. |
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911's haven't been purpose built sports cars in a decade. They are GT's with the sole exception of the GT3 and GT2. FWIW, if I could have any car on earth it would be the GT3 right now. Last edited by paradoxical3; 05-13-2014 at 02:46 PM.. |
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I agree with most of your points. Only area I differ and its just a matter of opinion is 911's are purposely built sports cars. I should probably put an asterisk next to it and refer to the GT3, RS models |
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05-13-2014, 04:04 PM | #78 |
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The M suspension is not lowered, it's just stiffer. You can deny it all you want but I posted video so....
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05-13-2014, 05:40 PM | #80 |
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Actually, the M sports are 10mm lower than the standard X1.
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05-14-2014, 12:44 PM | #82 |
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Also unless this is a professional race I assume the only person racing was you. A lot of people take their cars to track day not to race them but to legally ride very fast. They are not pushing a car that is over 100k to the limit.
I was just speaking from driving an old Porsche and driving my X1 to think that I could handle curves as well as even old Porsche is ridiculous. |
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05-14-2014, 12:56 PM | #83 | |
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Nobody - including me - was "racing", hence the point by's. But virtually everyone there was running telemetry systems and trying to achieve their best laptimes. Nobody is out there just leisurely lapping and enjoying the views, they wouldn't be in the intermediate group if they were. Also, my X1 with 50k cap cost was worth more than the majority of Porsche's there. There are a lot more sub-50k cars than 100k cars at PCA events. The only cars worth more are 997 TT, 997 GT3, the new Cayman and Boxter S cars, and the 991. Those are vastly outnumbered by 996, old-gen caymans, 944's, etc. |
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05-14-2014, 03:49 PM | #84 |
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ding ding hey atomic are you a lawyer? lol you are very specific. ok you said a x1 cant handle like or as good as a old Porsche. This is what ive been waiting for, bam bam there is a curve off of interstate 95 that we all take are cars on to see how fast we can do it in. right to the edge pushing it, my old e46 m3 ps2s could do 41mph my old audi s4 b5 lowered and every thing done to it best was 43mph the a friend in his zo6 did it in 47 mph. the bmw x1 35i stock 45mph now lowered and cambered still stock tires 47mph. bam bam by by Porsche and then once i and my street tires ps2s oh my.
para once you add the m3 suspension is going to be sick... |
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05-15-2014, 09:48 AM | #88 |
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Need to let the Stig drive both the 911 and the X1 35i...
It is quite funny seeing this debate with a guy who can track his X1 vs a guy who has a 28 and generally regrets his purchase... kind of like Mario Karts... |
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