02-27-2013, 03:10 AM | #23 |
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I hate the X1.
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02-27-2013, 03:55 AM | #24 |
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Thats too bad you don't like it.
I think BMW did a perfect job marketing it, because I love it! Its fits my needs just perfectly!
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02-27-2013, 08:08 AM | #26 | |
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Seems like a sad existence. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and call, TROLL. |
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02-27-2013, 10:35 AM | #27 | |
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I don't know what the difference between the Volvo and BMW designs are. I have read that the Volvo engine is compromised in some way to get it to fit transversely, but I don't know what that really means. I just know that I wasn't accelerating as fast as I would have in the 335i I've driven back home in the US and the car was speed limited somewhere in the 130-135mph range so despite the first time in my life ever being on the autobahn, I was only able to beat my personal fastest speed by ~5mph. |
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02-27-2013, 11:20 AM | #28 |
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As far as I know, it was designed to fit both ways. It's basically their trusty old inline five with an extra cylinder crammed in to the same space. (Personally, I think they should have stuck with the more frugal I5)
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02-27-2013, 01:00 PM | #30 | |
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Seriously considered the XC60 (and X3) but that higher bigger numb steering SUV experience lost out to the more fun X1 |
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02-27-2013, 05:02 PM | #31 | ||
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But to reinforce my initial comment, a lot of people dislike the X1 and view it as a bad concept in marketing. It has inept handling, non-existent off-road ability and is the ugliest car we have ever made. Begs the question.....why?
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02-27-2013, 05:27 PM | #32 |
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You know the same argument has been made about the E82, right? I owned one of those too, and an M Coupe, ugly is good.
In the US, the X1 is also the only way to get a wagon with the N55, so we have that going for us, while I think you guys down south can get an E91 and F31 with the N55 (and all three pedals) right? |
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02-27-2013, 06:15 PM | #33 | |
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Leaving looks aside- looks are always subjective- I will grant the lack of off road ability while noting that here in the US that only 15% of SUVs sold are ever taken off road. Along with the incoming 320 the base X1 is the cheapest BMW available in the US market. As such it makes tremendous sense here as an entry level BMW to tempt people looking at other luxury and near luxury crossovers. The only reason I'm driving a BMW today is the X1. The X3 is more than I want to pay and the 3 Touring was not available when I bought mine plus it is also in another price bracket and thus not viable for me. For the type of vehicle it is I find the handling excellent. It certainly handles better than any of the cars I compared it to like the Jetta SportWagon and the Acura TSX Sportwagon, to say nothing of the $30K class of SUVs. The versions that retain the hydrologic steering seem to be highly praised from their steering feel and overall handling ability. I realize you are in a different market so perhaps the options there are different than in the US. I looked very hard and at the end of the day there was no other vehicle on the US market that offered the cargo capacity, handling, quiet cabin, and ability to go 0-60 in under 7 seconds while still coming in under $40K. |
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02-27-2013, 06:33 PM | #34 |
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Inept handling? Not in my world. I purchased the X1 because of performance + utility.
I do think it is relatively ugly. I wish I could have an Evoque shell with a X1 inside. |
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02-27-2013, 07:53 PM | #35 | |
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Go buy a Chinese Volvo if you want, I personally don't want to support the Chinese (yes they own Volvo). Once they have to build product without Ford parts they will be SOL.
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02-27-2013, 09:42 PM | #38 | |
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Mate it's got nothing to do with trolling. All the points made are good points and people can clearly justify why they bought one which is good. I also understand the American market is different to the European and Australian markets where my 135 with toys cost $100,000. I'd love an M3 but $180,000+ is too expensive, so I compromised, and I get that. Performance, tick, handling, tick, space, compromise. 2 out of 3. Doesn't change my opinion of the X1 though, it gets 0 out of 3. And in Australia they've only sold 6,000 since they launched it in 2009 so it's not exactly popular. If the M135 was widely available in the US that's probably what you would buy instead but that would trash the X1 range and BMW aren't that stupid.
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02-27-2013, 10:04 PM | #39 | |
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I'd be happy to show you in person how my X1 outperforms your 135. Not to mention, your 135 and a M135i are completely useless in my climate for half of the year - and my X1 has more horsepower than both anyway. Whether you like it or not, the US market is different than that of Australia, and the X1 35i is a better car in every respect than the M135i for my climate and needs. |
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02-27-2013, 10:06 PM | #40 | |
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Just blabing out a comment like that is very trollish. I think the X1 is a sexy looking vehicle. I like the big hood and front grills. Its an compact SUV, classic BMW X lines. But again, maybe I have weird taste. BMW is not trying to sell X1's to M car owners. At least thats how I understand it.
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02-27-2013, 10:26 PM | #41 | |
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From what I've seen the M135 is an awesome car. Interior space vs X1 and price would be the make or break points for me. But since we are never going to get the M135 over here I guess it doesn't matter. |
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And your opinion of the X1 mirrors your relative sales - i.e. the MINORITY |
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