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In addition my dealer said my tyres were all season and they have the right symbol for it, yet Pirelli say they are Summer tyres??? Aaaaaargh.......I give up Sod it, I am getting my winter tyres fitted on Saturday
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Good man. You won't ever regret having winter snow tires.
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Heh heh looking forward to it. Been the snowiest winter here so far for many years. 3 feet in the last 2 weeks. BMW are fitting them and storing my summer set for free.
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I confirm.
When I had 2 Winter tires fitted, a snowstorm was building. My 2WD SDrive was fishtailing all over the mechanic's parking lot. I pulled away one hour later with my 2 Nokian, and it was day and night. Even on the steep hill to my place, I deliberately stopped the car, and it hauled back up again with hardly any wheel spin. 2WD + Winter tires + DTC gets you our of most situations in my opinion, especially in an urban environment.
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You should always have 4 winters. Two on the front for stopping and steering and two on the back for traction (and to a lesser extent stopping). IMHO.
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As the tires are "lost" (the X1 is leased) and unless we take another X1 in January 12, the tires will be useless beyond that. So 2 rear Winter rubbers make for an acceptable compromise!
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Hi Mario,
No, the tax bracket on 4WD company vehicles here triples the amount you have to pay for a 2WD. Not worth it. Besides I really like RWD cars... I drove Caprices, CrownVics CVPI and Magnums SSP when I was in Ontario, and never got stuck anywhere. With only 2 winter tires on a RWD, you just have to be careful when turning sharply on ice or snow, as the car will have a tendency to go straight and oversteer (as if you were driving a FWD) because of the enhanced traction on the rear wheels, which is the opposite of its natural behaviour otherwise (RWDs understeer and thus fishtail). As BigDave said earlier, ideally you should get 4 Winter tires... *** By the way, all-season tires should have the mention M+S, as in Mud & Snow"
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Got my Winter Tyres
Had my winter tyres fitted this morning. The only ones that BMW do for the X1 in the UK at the moment are the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D's. Did a bit of reading about them and they seem OK. Interesting how they work, if you want have a look here Dunlop Winter Sport 3D
Anyway, we are forcast heavy snow tonight so I shall have a go For the record, they are non-RF on steel rims with plastic BMW wheel covers. The covers are not bolted to the rims as I think someone mentioned on here. It looks like they are but you can just pull them off, which I will do to fit chains. On a dry road they are slightly noisier than my Pirellis but the ride is slightly softer as can be expected.
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This review was enough to persuade me the tyres are a very decent option. Yes a bit more expensive getting them from BMW but they swap them twice a year (and valet your car each time!) and store your unused wheels. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/product...2/verdict.html Did you get the goodie bag with the torch as well? |
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Matthew, could you elaborate on "a bit more expensive" please ?
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Currently cheapest on the internet (for the same size) I can find is £231 each. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.p...110&sowigan=Wi So BMW are cheaper! Proper price is probably more like £150 each. So a £240 premium gets the steel wheels, trim and all the BMW service elements. Each change takes '1 or 2' hours according to the service manager (I think they need to balance them and, of course, check them in and out of storage - it's certainly a little more involved than just swapping wheels) so I feel far from ripped off. |
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I paid 260€ for 2 Nokian WR32, so it would have come to 520 for 4. 25€ for the swap... 550€ roughly (without steel rims).
Well, you didn't do too bad indeed.
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Matthew, not got the set yet as they are out of stock. Did manage to convince them to give it to me for free so its on order.
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Isn´t it possible for you to buy winter tyres for the Scandinavian market. They are outstanding in every test. The winter tyres you guys use is "continental tyres". Those tyres are a long way from real winter tyres.
Here is some examples of Nordic winter tyres without pikes, have you heard about them??? Continental ContiVikingContact 5 Goodyear UltraGrip Ice+ Nokian Hakkapeliitta R What say you??? |
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Mild Winters might be a thing of the past... It's the third consecutive Winter here where there is substantial snow falls and low temperatures (- 19c in DEC 09, and we hit a - 12c last Friday !). I mean,this is the kinda stuff I used to encounter in Eastern Ontario !
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The trade-offs are the duration of low temps, cost of changing and how badly you need the extra traction and control. Here in Canada I run my snows from Nov to April, so it's worth it. I had used the Nokian Hakkas a few yers ago on my Miata and it went like a tank through the snow! They are great tires.
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