02-26-2019, 09:07 PM | #1 |
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My X1 has died
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120,000 miles Cause of death: BMW using a cheap plastic timing belt tensioner instead of metal My car went into limp mode so I checked the codes, cam shaft timing error. I talked to a mechanic buddy and he said that happens sometimes and recommended a BMW Indy shop. I took it in and they partially dismantled the engine and told me that the tensioner guide had broken down to the point that the cam shaft had cause scoring to the engine and there were shards of aluminum throughout the engine. Ruined. The fix: replace the engine. A used engine is about $3000. Labor is $2-3000. Car value, due to the high mileage, is about $6500. Fixing it is not worth it. The pick and pull yard offered $640. There are a few charity groups who will give me a tax write off for it. Or I can try to sell it for whatever I can get, maybe $2000 if I am lucky. There is a pending class action lawsuit for this problem but obviously no one knows when it will be settled and what the outcome will be. If anyone is in the market for a roof rack, rear cargo rubber mat, tow hitch, or anything else that can be easily removed, let me know. |
02-27-2019, 07:50 AM | #3 |
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I do not know what color the plastic was, I did not look at it.
Oil change intervals were as prescribed by the engine management system. When it told me it was time, I had it changed but a trusted mechanic. It is a 28 x drive. |
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Hate to say but that makes me feel better. Very few and far between with those who stick to sub 5-6k oil changes. Sorry. |
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02-27-2019, 11:34 AM | #5 |
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The oil change frequency was not the problem, poor engineering on BMW’s part was the problem. Would increased oil changes have caught the problem earlier, possibly. But it would not have changed the inherent design flaw in the timing chain system.
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02-27-2019, 12:14 PM | #6 |
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Again, no offense. I don't trust any timing chain or belt much over 90k.
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03-01-2019, 12:36 AM | #11 |
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Long OCI and ASS lead to chain tension compromise which begins to beat up the plastic chain guides. And before long...shatter...Kaboom...wahhhhhhhh I want mommy.
Anyone that maintains their own bikes will know the importance of chain lube and abrupt chain shocks. Fyi plastic chain guide is a normal implementation of modern cars. |
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03-02-2019, 11:33 AM | #12 | |
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Timing chain and pulley replacement every 90k No matter what vehicle. |
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03-02-2019, 06:59 PM | #13 |
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I would take it to a BMW dealer. Even though it is far out of warranty, the car is not that old and this kind of thing shouldn't happen. Ask if BMW will cover part of the cost out of good will and questionable design. I disagree with those who say a timing chain needs servicing. If so, why doesn't BMW offer any guidance on it. I also disagree that the guide is plastic in most modern cars. It wasn't on a Nissan VQ. As far as I'm concerned, it should last the life of the car.
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03-03-2019, 01:04 PM | #14 |
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Toyota, lexus, mb, Audi, VW, Subaru, BMW......all use plastic guides. Shall I go on?
Engine kaput is pretty definitive to the life of a car don't you think? |
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03-05-2019, 08:32 PM | #15 | |
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Cars that have timing belts can have plastic guides because they are going to get replaced at 80k miles. A car with a chain should have a metal guide so you do not have to screw with it, that is the whole purpose of the chain. |
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03-08-2019, 01:08 AM | #17 |
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My sympathies, It’s a shame. Seems like you should be able to get more than 120,000 miles out of a car if it’s reasonably maintained and loved and it sounds like yours was. That said, my last car died at about 124,000 and it wasn’t worth it to repair. I obtained photos of it being stripped later at the reclaimer that were painful. I had put a lot of mods and time and fun things into it. Best wishes to you.
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03-08-2019, 08:54 AM | #18 |
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I've heard about this issue but the information available is all over the place. I've heard certain years after a specific production date are not affected, that BMW extended warranty, etc.
https://bmwtechnician.com/2016/08/07...g-chain-issue/ https://bmwtechnician.com/2017/08/02...-bmw-bulletin/ http://www.rightfootdown.com/cars/au...nents-n26-too/ |
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based on the TSB from BMW vehicles made before 03/2013 should be concerned ?
i would be concerned for the whole 2013 line up and under- sometime faulty parts can slipped although the changes are announced Last edited by mreric; 03-08-2019 at 05:31 PM.. |
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03-09-2019, 04:16 AM | #20 |
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If this is the N52B30 i am very interested in the transfer case, but obviously not an easy part to remove. But if you sell it to a chop shop, please let me know which one!
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03-09-2019, 02:13 PM | #21 |
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Yep another N20 engine has bit the dust.
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