Still want an EV?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Why Aren't More People Driving Electric Cars? An EV Expert Weighs In

Read More: https://www.slashgear.com/1582035/wh...pert-explains/

Nothing new in that article. It summarizes what most of us in the "echo chamber" have been saying all along. I have especially been stating EV cost more to own in total inclusive costs and the payback doesn't start until after 80,000 to 100,000 miles, which is 5+ years of ownership. The Professor backs up what I have been saying for years on the Forum. I'm not a Doctorate-holding, Dept. Chair of anything, but I do understand automobile ownership costs. Maybe he's been reading my posts... Lol.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by SteVTEC

Funny you should mention that. Who is actually running this world?

Running the world is like herding a billion+ cats

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

They have headphones that can read minds. What used to be scifi is now reality. Whatever you see that the consumer section has now, they (government) has had for 20 years prior at least.

Yes it hit news last year - but more like a swimming/shower cap wit lots of wires, it requires quite a bit of training and active participation of subject and can only detect active thoughts not memories -
https://www.uts.edu.au/news/tech-des...-thoughts-text

Science has been turning Sci-Fi ideas into reality for a long time.

[eugenebmw]

Unsold Teslas fill Langley parking lot

https://www.abbynews.com/news/unsold...ng-lot-7362741

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Unsold Tesla's fill Langley parking lot

Honestly I wish Tesla the best. If you have to buy a EV that is IMO the best choice. I'm seeing more KIA EV's lately.
Seems to be a different customer as it is the younger students driving the Tesla's and the clueless soccer moms driving the KIA's.

[Bongoxxx]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Honestly I wish Tesla the best. If you have to buy a EV that is IMO the best choice. I'm seeing more KIA EV's lately.
Seems to be a different customer as it is the younger students driving the Tesla's and the clueless soccer moms driving the KIA's.

Same customers that were paying $10-20k ADMs on KIA Tellurides

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by SteVTEC

Funny you should mention that. Who is actually running this world?

Ephesians 2:2
2 Corinthians 4:4
1 John 5:19
John 8:44

You missed Ephesians 6:12

** “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
**Ephesians‬ *6‬:*12‬ *NASB1995‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/100/eph.6.12.NASB1995

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Yes it hit news last year - but more like a swimming/shower cap wit lots of wires, it requires quite a bit of training and active participation of subject and can only detect active thoughts not memories -
https://www.uts.edu.au/news/tech-des...-thoughts-text

Science has been turning Sci-Fi ideas into reality for a long time.

That's not what I'm talking about, this is:

https://digialps.com/apples-mind-blo...ain%20activity.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I have heard that the aliens will control our minds using the fluoride added to the water. The voice in my tooth tells me this.

Fluoride in water dumbs people down, and is toxic even at "safe" doses.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

That's not what I'm talking about, this is:

https://digialps.com/apples-mind-blo...ain%20activity.

Yeah, that looks totally reputable...not.

Companies also patent all kinds of crap, which is the way of patent litigation, so they can use it in the future against someone else. A large % of it is not legit...but it's a chess-board of patents and strategy. It's not a conspiracy and it's not a mind-reading airpod. It's the way of the US patent system.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

You missed Ephesians 6:12

** “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
**Ephesians‬ *6‬:*12‬ *NASB1995‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/100/eph.6.12.NASB1995

You missed Judges 1:19: The lord was with Judah, but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron"

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by RM7

Yeah, that looks totally reputable...not.

Companies also patent all kinds of crap, which is the way of patent litigation, so they can use it in the future against someone else. A large % of it is not legit...but it's a chess-board of patents and strategy. It's not a conspiracy and it's not a mind-reading airpod. It's the way of the US patent system.

Start at 17:50 - this is scary stuff.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by RM7

Yeah, that looks totally reputable...not.

Companies also patent all kinds of crap, which is the way of patent litigation, so they can use it in the future against someone else. A large % of it is not legit...but it's a chess-board of patents and strategy. It's not a conspiracy and it's not a mind-reading airpod. It's the way of the US patent system.

Of course, everything is fake unless they tell you it's real.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-rep...221907828.html

[RM7]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Of course, everything is fake unless they tell you it's real.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-rep...221907828.html

That doesn't mean they are "reading your thoughts", as you loosely implied.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by RM7

That doesn't mean they are "reading your thoughts", as you loosely implied.

Lol, believe what you want.

[RM7]

Why do that when we can make up stuff based on youtube videos?

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Fluoride in water dumbs people down, and is toxic even at "safe" doses.

Absolutely. And it is how they control us. Between the giant weather machines that the government uses to advance the false climate crisis and the element fluoride we stand no chance. We may as well huff the Zyklon-B Nazi death gas our fuel air combustion bomb EVs emit and end it all.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Start at 17:50 - this is scary stuff.

Anyone using AI on others may get a A1 boot up their rear as a return

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Running the world is like herding a billion+ cats

Not as hard as it should be:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/p...ccinated-covid

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by RM7

Why do that when we can make up stuff based on youtube videos?

What "stuff" was made up? I literally posted a video of US president saying that they wanted to control the weather.

I posted two guys who work in tech field and have more insight into AI than most people, but because Yahoo, Fox and CNN haven't said specifically told you what to think about AI, and tools that can be used to scan your brain - it's fake?

My guy, you didn't even KNOW about any of this before I showed you, worst still, you know you're not informed and you refuse to even take 5 minutes to TRY and educate yourself.

Please block me, there isn't anything productive that can come from our conversations. You already ignore everything I post, so just make it official.

Originally Posted by gblansten

Absolutely. And it is how they control us. Between the giant weather machines that the government uses to advance the false climate crisis and the element fluoride we stand no chance. We may as well huff the Zyklon-B Nazi death gas our fuel air combustion bomb EVs emit and end it all.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...luoride-trial/

Stanley Barone, Ph.D., a risk assessment scientist, was the EPA’s second and final in-person witness in nine days of testimony before federal Judge Edward Chen in San Francisco.
...
Although Barone is at the trial to testify for the EPA, plaintiffs called him to the stand last week to explain the EPA’s methods for risk assessment. In several hours of highly technical testimony, he detailed methods the EPA can use to determine hazard, risk, benchmarks and margins of uncertainty.

In his testimony yesterday for the EPA, Barone said there simply isn’t enough data available for EPA to implement its risk assessment process for fluoride. Necessary modeling, namely physiologically-based pharmacokinetic modeling that predicts how a chemical will be absorbed and metabolized by the body, hasn’t yet been done, he said.

But on cross-examination, Connett forced Barone to concede several of the plaintiffs’ key points.

“You do not dispute that fluoride is capable of causing neurodevelopment harm, correct?” Connett asked.

“I do not,” Barone said, adding that he said that in his deposition.

“You agree that the current evidence is suggestive that low-dose fluoride causes neurodevelopmental effects? Correct?” Connett asked.

Barone said the “hazard ID” — the level at which a toxin causes effects — “is probably in the suggestive range but is highly uncertain.”

“You agree that fluoride is associated with neurotoxic effects at water fluoride levels exceeding two parts per million?” Connett asked.

After first evading the question, Barone conceded.

Connett asked if Barone agreed there should be a “benchmark margin of uncertainty” of 10 for fluoride neurotoxicity. That means the lowest allowable human exposure level should be at least 10 times the hazard level, which Barone conceded may be approximately 2 parts per million.

Barone said that is generally true for toxic chemicals under TSCA.

Water fluoridation levels in the U.S. are currently 0.7 parts per million, also referred to as milligrams per liter (mg/L), which would place them well above the allowable level if they were regulated through TSCA’s norms.

Barone also conceded that the NTP’s report linking fluoride to neurotoxicity at 1.5 mg/L is a rigorous, high-quality review and that the NTP is one of the world leaders in doing such reviews.

“Do you feel comfortable as a risk assessor,” Connett asked, “exposing pregnant women to a level of fluoride that is so high that the kidney is oversaturated?”

Barone avoided answering, commenting instead on other foods containing fluoride.

Connett asked a second time, “Are you comfortable then with a pregnant woman having so much fluoride in her circulating system that their kidney has lost the ability to efficiently process it?”

EPA lawyers objected to the question as “vague and argumentative” but Chen overruled.

Barone sat in silence for several seconds before responding, “Again, putting this in context, my comfort level I don’t think is germane.”

Yeah, everything is a conspiracy - even reality.

[Car-Addicted]

How Much Of A Fire Risk Are Electric Cars?
May 24, 2024
Our available data sets on vehicle fires are varied and limited. But, broadly, studies show no evidence that EVs are more likely to catch fire than combustion vehicles. They appear to be doing so at a far lower rate.
According to The Guardian, EV-embracing Norway found combustion vehicles producing four to five times as many fires as EVs. A study by the Swedish Contingencies Agency for 2022 found that all fuel types produced 68 fires per 100,000 vehicles compared to 3.8 fires per 100,000 vehicles for EVs.
The number of EV fires should increase as more battery packs age and remain on the road.
Battery cells that catch fire can enter a condition called thermal runway. In this condition, the chemical reaction that sparks the fire becomes self-sustaining: heat releases energy, which releases more heat. The temperature rises dramatically, and it can be much harder to put out. EV fires release a cloud of flammable vapor that can explode and send jet-like flames.
EV fires can also reignite, sometimes long after the initial fire is extinguished. EV Fire Safe found that 13 percent of EV fires experienced reignition. The study logged one reiginition event 68 days after the initial fire. EV fires release a cloud of flammable vapor that can explode and send jet-like flames.
Water does extinguish EV battery fires. However, getting water directly to an EV fire can be challenging. The same casing that protects the pack from damage and elements can make the fire hard to access. And battery packs typically sit underneath the rest of the vehicle, further complicating the effort. Putting out an EV fire requires more time than a combustion engine fire and a lot more water.
A fire at Nissan's Tennessee headquarters required 45,000 gallons of water to extinguish, multiple tankers worth and tens of times the amount usually required to snuff out a combustion engine fire.
https://insideevs.com/features/72076...k-safety-burn/

"Water does extinguish EV battery fires." Water controls the heat but LiPo batteries are self-oxidizing so they will burn underwater. If I was a fact checker I would call this false.

[gonzo]

Annie Jacobsen:

Some of y'all need to read every book and watch every video she has released.

Then you'll have that going for you.