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Originally Posted by zx10guy
...The BMW driver's fault because the BMW driver moved to the right. They're ignoring the fact that this is what is done to set up a proper line into any corner.
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Exactly.
The Porsche was in the BMW driver's rear view for a total of
11 seconds before the accident (barring any blind spot time), and when you subtract cornering and corner set-up time where you NEED your eyes on the road, you're talking about probably less than 6 seconds of actual rearview mirror awareness that the BMW driver missed...on a 10 minute lap. That's nothing. I'd wager that most people commenting that the BMW driver should have been more aware have never been to the Ring or tried to drive a set of corners like this at speed, they're just watching videos and making an armchair assessment. Misha drives it multiple times a day and has for years and I've seen him caught unaware many times. That's times 10 for the average quick-pace driver.
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Originally Posted by zx10guy
They should in my opinion, re-evaluate their rules during a TF. If they want to run it as a public road, fine. But make it 100% a public road. I don't know of any public road where there are passing zones in a corner. There should be zero passing in corners and only on the straights.
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I agree with your sentiment, in general, but I don't think that'll ever happen because a.) it'd be a logistical nightmare, and b.) Germans don't care to babysit people, especially in an obviously dangerous environment. They're more of a "drive at your own risk" lot.
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Originally Posted by Alfisti
So you're saying the two lane road rules apply but it is the Porsche's fault because the BMW was clearly taking a racing line ("setting up for corners at speed") which would be to the left of the road.
If the whole two lane thing is real it is unquestionably the BMW driver's fault, he should be tot he right at all times unless passing and he wasn't passing. The only way the it is the Porsche's fault (and it is 80/20 the Porsche's fault imho) is if you acknowledge the whole two lane thing is not enforced and the Porsche should have expected the BMW to potentially not be to the right.
It cannot be both.
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To the letter of the law as I understand it, it's the BMW driver's fault.
I personally consider it to be the Porsche driver's fault for the reasons I have stated.
And as I have stated, the laws are there to protect the Nurburgring first, people second. Someone always has to pay, as long as it's not the Ring.