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      09-19-2022, 03:08 PM   #107
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Originally Posted by Cos270 View Post
I think what frustrates many is that they are having something forced on them (be it better or not - let's leave that out of it for this point). They look around and see others (be they countries or individuals) who are not going to be beholden to the same standards. China, India, Mexico and great swaths of Eastern Europe have no way (nor intention) of adhering to the same rigorous emission standards the rest of the developed world is implementing or soon will; despite the fact that they are some of the largest contributors.

And just recently, there was some data released on how much emissions certain celebrities are responsible for with their frequent private jet usage; we are talking the equivalent of hundreds of people's emissions for daily-driven modern ICE cars attributed to a single person's demand for fast and convenient travel. Yet these are the same people telling everyone else they are the ones that need to sacrifice and change their lifestyle. I lump many people in this forum in the same category that are wealthy enough to own a host of inefficient, high-performance ICE cars and belittle others because they show any hesitance to switching to EVs. When you can afford a couple fun ICE cars that remain parked and are only driven on the track or weekends while you daily an EV, it's easy to look at the future with optimism. For those of us who can only afford one car, it's a tougher pill to swallow.

The companies that make all of these vehicles, while many are starting to move towards more energy efficient and emission-minded manufacturing processes, are of a similar mind - but to add insult to injury, they are the ones that stand to gain from everyone ditching ICE and adopting EVs.

Personal transportation is low hanging fruit because it is the most visible, and can enrich corporations the most. What about tractor trailer semi trucks? Shipping barges? Airplanes? Where is the call to arms for heavy industry to clean up their act? It's nowhere - and that's because the optics are not favorable and those opportunities are not lucrative enough.

My prediction: through GREAT investments and suffering by tax payers and the middle class, we will get close to EV adoption targets. And there will be a near negligible improvement to climate change and emissions. Those who are polluting will continue to do so and the corporations will continue to profit, laughing on their way to the bank. But everyone will be able to say "at least we tried" - which will be worth little in the end.
100% agree but people are natures of habit. They get so committed to an idea that bears no fruit and wonder why years later it failed. This world is toast. We just keep trying more ways to kill for margins and the clueless politicians and corporate elites win laughing all the way to the bank. Evs are a great idea on paper but once you start digging “literally” you will just find another money making scheme. People only see what they want to see and cancel out any noise that isn’t agreeable to them. It’s just as pointless trying to change someone’s mind on social forums like this but hopefully at least one ev evangelist starts to question the motive of this new EV conquest. We all share the same air globally, unfortunately the biggest polluters are not us and those other will continue polluting.

We currently have 240 coal plants and the administration wants to get more closed asap while China currently has 1,110 and continue to build more. They will not phase down in 2030, absolute lie. So, while we make our citizens suffer with high inflation and pushing people into more expensive EVs that most can’t afford unless they take out a 84mo. loan, other countries will just laugh at us. Let’s us not forget how many US jobs will be lost to manufactures converting to EV building. Ford has already announced ev’s to be built in Mexico and laying off jobs here. Well done America well done

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