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      07-23-2017, 01:07 PM   #1
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Timing chain recalls ?

So one day my mechanic noted that the timing chain is noisy. A few months later I got a CEL with P0015 (Camshaft Position B - Timing Over-Retarded) iirc. The mechanic said the chain is likely stretched. Took it to another mechanic, he basically confirmed - "could be a timing chain, or an oil pump, or both". Expensive.
One of them also mentioned that he thinks that BMW USA issued a recall, and I can try contacting BMW Canada to see if they can do anything. I can't seem to find anything related to N20 timing chain issues in recalls. Can anyone confirm if the recall exists?
The car is 2012 X1 28i with 120k km on it.
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      07-23-2017, 04:24 PM   #2
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As far as I know there is no recall, but the related parts was changed/updated in 2015.
I would suggest you talk to the dealership. It looks like in some cases they helped the customer through BMW.
I hope you saved your service records and kept it up to date.
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      07-24-2017, 02:03 PM   #3
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No official recall on this matter.
Hope you have a good relationship with your local BMW dealership.
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      07-24-2017, 07:25 PM   #4
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No official recall on this matter.
Hope you have a good relationship with your local BMW dealership.

I don't, I'm a second owner. Been to dealership once

German engineering FTW!
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      08-27-2017, 10:37 AM   #5
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More than likely the chain is good, it's probably the "plastic" yes plastic chain guides wearing out. Harley had the same issues with their chain guides also. I am blown away by using plastic in a motor that gets so hot.
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      08-28-2017, 06:44 AM   #6
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Just wondering - what was your oil change interval?

When I discussed this issue with my indy mechanic - asking if I should proactively change to the new chain guide design, he was familiar with it and is convinced the problem is due to the long oil change intervals - and advises 8000km oil changes.
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      08-30-2017, 01:12 PM   #7
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X1GTA your indie is not incorrect. I had a similar conversation with our BMW service advisor that seems knowledgeable around this issue. Long OCI contributes to this and suggested frequent fresh oil changes as a prevention.
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      08-30-2017, 01:42 PM   #8
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As fuel distributor somewhat knowledgeable oil man, I'm not feeling the long oil change as cause.

I have one of those in a 2014 X1 s28i, and I'll chaNGE OIL by 10k miles with Mobil 1 0w40.

If it makes noise I'll fix it before it shreds engine.
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      08-30-2017, 01:58 PM   #9
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There are some that speculate that ASS is responsible.
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      08-30-2017, 06:26 PM   #10
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That's more likely, and I turned mine off.

At least there's a heavy starter on car to last longer if used less.
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There are some that speculate that ASS is responsible.
ASS has always been my down fall. OH MY.
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      08-31-2017, 01:56 PM   #12
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ASS in our cars are poorly implemented and uncouth. In addition it adds wear various engine components. Even the manual stated that.

There are numerous threads on this issue that I am beginning to feel it is overblown exacerbated by internet echoes.
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      08-31-2017, 10:52 PM   #13
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I measured gas use with my scanguage on my 2.0L, and it's .23gallons/hour idling with no loads like A/C.

That's lower than most cars, about 75 cents an hour, and not a worry to me.

I do like BMW's idea of stopping battery charging while accelerating or charging more while braking; whichever way you want to explain it.
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