New X1 (sDrive20D) vs 320D

kaushama · 03-02-2011, 06:30 AM

Dear members! I have decided to buy a Bimmer and I can get 320D or X1 sDrive 20D for my budget. I am not hardcore off-roader though I can live with little more ground clearance due to road conditions in my locality.
I like the looks of 320D better than the controversial look of X1 (still it is a fantastic looking car).
My local agent advises for me to get X1 as 320D would be replaced by F30 next year. As I am going to use this for at least three years he says X1 would hold its value for a trade in later.
What do you prefer if you were in my boat? Can 320D accommodate three persons in the rear seats comfortably than X1? (One limitation of X1 according to reviews)

mario486 · 03-02-2011, 07:31 AM

Hi Kaushama,

As this is a X1 forum, no contest. The X1 wins every time

To be honest I looked at a 3-series as well but the 4x4 of the XDrive and the raised ground clearence mostly won it for me.

A few other points:

1. As you say the X1 is still fresh and the 3 is about to be replaced.
2. The X1 is actually built on the 3-series platform and is almost identical in size to the 3 estate.
3. It has loads more boot space than a 3 sedan or estate.
4. 3 adults can sit at the back although the transmission tunnel takes up some space. This is true for a 3 series as well. I would say there is more room inside compared to a 3 as the vehicle is taller so you sit moe upright.
5. In the UK its about 15% cheaper than the 3, like for like.

Hope this helps. Let us know what you decide.

nathan35 · 03-02-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mario486

As this is a X1 forum, no contest. The X1 wins every time

no doubt about it!

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Originally Posted by mario486

3. It has loads more boot space than a 3 sedan or estate.

Thought it was the other way round though, the 3er estate has slightly more boot space (from memory: 460 vs 420l)

I've seen on the web some comparisons of the two, although it might've been on some German car magazine site. I'll try to find it tonight and post it.

And it seems from what I read, and my onw edxperience, that the 3er is slightly more luxurious inside than the X1.

Have also been throught that choice, and was finally convinced to the X1 by: cooler design, slightly higher driving position ("semi-command", according to bmw, whatever that means, but it certainly means that the 3er is no command at all

) and yes, a lower price for a quite similar product!

kaushama · 03-02-2011, 08:06 AM

I was considering E90 320D sedan! Not the touring!!

Gatekeeper · 03-02-2011, 08:31 AM

X1.

mario486 · 03-02-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

no doubt about it!

Thought it was the other way round though, the 3er estate has slightly more boot space (from memory: 460 vs 420l)

I thought it was the other way round!

, ie X1 slightly bigger.

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And it seems from what I read, and my onw edxperience, that the 3er is slightly more luxurious inside than the X1.

I agree, the 3 has better interior materials, and soundproofing as well.

nathan35 · 03-02-2011, 10:59 AM

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I thought it was the other way round!

, ie X1 slightly bigger.

Probably the confusion comes from the reclinable rear backrests of the X1, which gives a range of 360-480l. However with 480l the rear seats are pretty much unuseable, not to mention that everybody can see what's in your boot. The nominal X1 figure with a standard backrest position is given to be 420l.

The brochure on the Dutch bmw site says the 3er touring has 460l boot, and 450l for the 335i, 335d.

kaushama · 03-02-2011, 11:07 AM

If one considers the price tag both 20D sDrive and 320d sedan costs same here for us! So that is not a factor affecting the decision. It is more of the resale value the dealer was concerned about. For some odd reason people here have not got used to the look of the X1. They still see the pictures I think. It is a much better looking vehicle in person IMHO.

nathan35 · 03-03-2011, 03:42 AM

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They still see the pictures I think. It is a much better looking vehicle in person IMHO.

True, when I saw the pictures I was very disappointed, and then I saw the car in the street... and the next thing I know I was signing at the bmw dealer

In your case I guess it's really a matter of taste, for a similar price you get two very distinct cars, with pretty similar functionalities. I'd go for the X1 though

kaushama · 03-03-2011, 04:54 AM

I heard that BMW has done better sound proofing with later batches of X1. Is this true?

kaushama · 03-03-2011, 04:57 AM

And the car we get does not have roof rails! Can we install it easily? And X-line as well later?

mario486 · 03-03-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kaushama

I heard that BMW has done better sound proofing with later batches of X1. Is this true?

Not as far as I know.

mario486 · 03-03-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kaushama

And the car we get does not have roof rails! Can we install it easily? And X-line as well later?

Again, not as far as I know although anything is possble if you are prepared to pay for it. Strange though that they do not offer the rails etc as an option where you live? Do you have any options you can choose?

mario486 · 03-03-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kaushama

I was considering E90 320D sedan! Not the touring!!

Big difference in the usable boot space between the X1 and a 3 sedan!

Gatekeeper · 03-03-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kaushama

And the car we get does not have roof rails! Can we install it easily? And X-line as well later?

Jeez, did you order your car exactly as you did not want it ?

There's already a thread on X-Line package retrofit in page 10. Look it up there might be answers to your questions.

Pepe79 · 03-03-2011, 09:04 AM

X1 of course

BUT if you like the F30 and can wait a year.... although I don't think it will be around the same price-range (by looking this pic). But will probably have a more economic and powerful engine... (guess)

kaushama · 03-03-2011, 09:45 AM

Yes this is given for a duty free permit for state officials in my place and we have to choose stuff under 25000US$ limit. Hence no rails and X-Line.
I will surely install these later if it is possible. We have to pay 270% as taxes if we bring this down normal way!!!!!! Within next week I will decide. The local people still see X1 a touring hatchback and have not absorbed SAV niche.
So many people still go for 320D. But I am inclined towards X1.

mario486 · 03-03-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kaushama

The local people still see X1 a touring hatchback and have not absorbed SAV niche.
So many people still go for 320D. But I am inclined towards X1.

Good for you. You might also want to tell the others that the X1 is actually a 3-series crossover.

kaushama · 03-04-2011, 02:36 AM

I have decided on X1. Have only seen space Grey in person yet. Seen various pics of other colors. But as X1 looks a different car altogether in person than pictures, I don't know which is the best color out of space Grey, Black Sapphire and Bronze. My preference is black with beige interior. Any thoughts? Thanks

mario486 · 03-04-2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kaushama

I have decided on X1. Have only seen space Grey in person yet. Seen various pics of other colors. But as X1 looks a different car altogether in person than pictures, I don't know which is the best color out of space Grey, Black Sapphire and Bronze. My preference is black with beige interior. Any thoughts? Thanks

How about white or silver

Its only my personal taste though.

kaushama · 03-04-2011, 04:16 AM

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How about white or silver  Its only my personal taste though.

Pretty difficult to maintain at my topical environment. I thought X1 looks better with dark colours. Any way it a matter of personal taste I agree.

kaushama · 03-06-2011, 05:29 AM

I have read somewhere that angel eyes are not provided with normal halogen lights! Is this true?

I have found this

http://www.magdatom-car.eu/index.php...ct&prod_id=573

Is it possible to just buy this and snap in as an upgrade. When I asked the seller he advises to buy some assistive technologies module.

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mario486 Mario 26 Rep 981 Posts Drives: X1 XDrive 2.0d, Mini Cooper Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Scotland/Alba iTrader: (0)	Hi Kaushama, As this is a X1 forum, no contest. The X1 wins every time To be honest I looked at a 3-series as well but the 4x4 of the XDrive and the raised ground clearence mostly won it for me. A few other points: 1. As you say the X1 is still fresh and the 3 is about to be replaced. 2. The X1 is actually built on the 3-series platform and is almost identical in size to the 3 estate. 3. It has loads more boot space than a 3 sedan or estate. 4. 3 adults can sit at the back although the transmission tunnel takes up some space. This is true for a 3 series as well. I would say there is more room inside compared to a 3 as the vehicle is taller so you sit moe upright. 5. In the UK its about 15% cheaper than the 3, like for like. Hope this helps. Let us know what you decide. __________________ "Do or do not, there is no try!" - Master Yoda "Always in motion is the future" - Master Yoda "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is" - Master Yoda "There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living" - Nelson Mandela
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