Petrol or Diesel

manicm · 02-26-2011, 02:39 AM

Oh ok Konstantinos, I thought you got your car already. But how I measure my fuel consumption is taking note of how many litres I've filled at the pumps, and then taking note of the kilometres on the odometer when I fill up next. This is easy as I fill up my tank each time.

Not saying you're wrong, but I think the needle on the dashboard could have been! In fact it baffles me why BMW still persist with that analogue fuel consumption gauge.

Gatekeeper · 02-26-2011, 02:45 AM

[QUOTE=manicm;9006470]Oh ok Konstantinos, I thought you got your car already. But how I measure my fuel consumption is taking note of how many litres I've filled at the pumps, and then taking note of the kilometres on the odometer when I fill up next. This is easy as I fill up my tank each time./QUOTE]

Agreed.
It's the only way to get a proper reading (That's why I had asked Konstantinos in the first place how he determined the gas mileage

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Konstantinos80 · 02-26-2011, 06:56 AM

Thanks for the reassurance!

Yes, I had 5th gear and the indicator was always above 10 so possibly the test car was not in the best shape.

Glad to know that the 1.8sdrive manual petrol car will not have such a consumption! Now just got to wait a few more weeks to pick the car up, post pics and verify the consumption!

manicm · 02-26-2011, 07:14 AM

Hold on, you said 5th gear? That's probably why it was heavy on fuel, cruising at over 100 you ought to have been in 6th!

Gatekeeper · 02-26-2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by manicm

Hold on, you said 5th gear? That's probably why it was heavy on fuel, cruising at over 100 you ought to have been in 6th!

My point exactly macnim, but after Konstantinos' answer I didn't want to push the issue.
As I suggested above, he might have mistakenly left it in fifth, thus revving the engine unnecessarily and burning more gas.

Hey, it still happens to me once in a while on our Burgundy country roads.. Gear down to 4 and then forget it there, Vaughn Williams' music covering the engine roar...

manicm · 02-26-2011, 10:12 AM

I've heard bits of Vaughn Williams and it was fantastic - where do I start?

Gatekeeper · 02-26-2011, 10:16 AM

I'm sure he was thinking of the Burgundy Dales when he composed "The Lark Ascending" !

But I digress...

How about "amazon dot whatever" it is in South Africa ?

HelVan · 02-28-2011, 03:26 PM

Diesel here aswell... because of the high petrol prices .. and when im gonna sell it again, its much easier selling a diesel here. and of course the economic aspect with lower usage than petrol...

nathan35 · 02-28-2011, 03:50 PM

Wanted more fuel-efficiency, so went for diesel despite a higher price of the car.... and I haven't been disappointed: 6.5 l/100km in mixed traffic, managed to go down to 5 while steady cruising @110 kph on highway.

Find the engine a little intrusive at low rpm though, the whole cabin, gear handle and pedals shaking... that's the only slight disappointment, this is my first bimmer and was expecting a little higher vibration and noise insulation.

Gatekeeper · 02-28-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

Wanted more fuel-efficiency, so went for diesel despite a higher price of the car.... and I haven't been disappointed: 6.5 l/100km in mixed traffic, managed to go down to 5 while steady cruising @110 kph on highway.

Find the engine a little intrusive at low rpm though, the whole cabin, gear handle and pedals shaking... that's the only slight disappointment, this is my first bimmer and was expecting a little higher vibration and noise insulation.

Interesting...
No vibration here whatsoever at idling, and it's a 20d.

Konstantinos80 · 02-28-2011, 07:22 PM

Well,

It is going to take longer to solve the mystery... The dealer just rang and announced a two month delay... Pushing it to at least a 5 month wait from Germany to Greece. The problem is in Greek customs..

But I guess it will be worth the wait!

jazzo77 · 03-01-2011, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

Find the engine a little intrusive at low rpm though, the whole cabin, gear handle and pedals shaking... that's the only slight disappointment, this is my first bimmer and was expecting a little higher vibration and noise insulation.

Same engine = same disappointment. Anyway dealer said its ok.

Gatekeeper · 03-01-2011, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Konstantinos80

Well,

It is going to take longer to solve the mystery... The dealer just rang and announced a two month delay... Pushing it to at least a 5 month wait from Germany to Greece. The problem is in Greek customs..

But I guess it will be worth the wait!

Aaah. Sorry to hear that my man. I guess you'll have to read us bragging about how wonderful our X1s are a little longer that expected !!

nathan35 · 03-01-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jazzo77

Same engine = same disappointment. Anyway dealer said its ok.

Yes, I also read this in several reviews about the car, so I'm not worried about it. Especially that the sound gets much better and the vibrations dicrease as soon as I start to accelerate

mario486 · 03-02-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

Yes, I also read this in several reviews about the car, so I'm not worried about it. Especially that the sound gets much better and the vibrations dicrease as soon as I start to accelerate

Yep, I agree. Diesel has more vibration than the equivalent petrol engines.

I am finding it to be improving marginally the more miles I do. Also of course its less so when the engine is hot.

I do think though that its also because they have skimped a bit on the dampening and soundproofing on the X1. I test drove the 320d which has the same engine and it was much quieter/less vibration.

Anyway, don't care as I think its a great all round car.

Gatekeeper · 03-02-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

Yes, I also read this in several reviews about the car, so I'm not worried about it. Especially that the sound gets much better and the vibrations dicrease as soon as I start to accelerate

It's not that bad.... I mean, this ain't a Peugeot 504 atmospheric Diesel mill circa 1973 either. Now THAT was a vibration factory, either hot or cold !!

Frankly I've been driving Diesel cars in Europe for years, and modern common-rail, MPI engines vibrations amount to a shiver when the engine is cold... A non-issue in my humble opinion.

nathan35 · 03-02-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mario486

I think its a great all round car.

Wouldnt've guessed... you keep surprising me every day

Gatekeeper · 03-02-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

Wouldnt've guessed... you keep surprising me every day

Mario has this great sense of.... summary !

nathan35 · 03-03-2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

It's not that bad.... I mean, this ain't a Peugeot 504 atmospheric Diesel mill circa 1973 either. Now THAT was a vibration factory, either hot or cold !!

Sure, everything's relative... the first car I drove was my father's fiat 126p with a rear-placed 2 cyl air cooled engine... well, driving this was probably as close as you could get without leaving the earth to how Gagarin felt on his pioneering flight. So don't talk to me about vibrations

Gatekeeper · 03-03-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan35

Sure, everything's relative... the first car I drove was my father's fiat 126p with a rear-placed 2 cyl air cooled engine... well, driving this was probably as close as you could get without leaving the earth to how Gagarin felt on his pioneering flight. So don't talk to me about vibrations

Hey, I remember that ! A "fancy" Fiat 500 of sorts...

Did the "p" stand for "polski" ?

nathan35 · 03-03-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

Did the "p" stand for "polski" ?

Exactly

The original 126 was discontinued in 1980, but they kept producing the "polski" until 2000!

ady · 03-04-2011, 11:38 AM

With diesel at £1.39 a ltr in the U.K need I say more...

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manicm First Lieutenant 11 Rep 375 Posts Drives: X1 sDrive18i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SA iTrader: (0)	Oh ok Konstantinos, I thought you got your car already. But how I measure my fuel consumption is taking note of how many litres I've filled at the pumps, and then taking note of the kilometres on the odometer when I fill up next. This is easy as I fill up my tank each time. Not saying you're wrong, but I think the needle on the dashboard could have been! In fact it baffles me why BMW still persist with that analogue fuel consumption gauge.
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Gatekeeper Captain 11 Rep 630 Posts Drives: BMW 320d Security Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=manicm;9006470]Oh ok Konstantinos, I thought you got your car already. But how I measure my fuel consumption is taking note of how many litres I've filled at the pumps, and then taking note of the kilometres on the odometer when I fill up next. This is easy as I fill up my tank each time./QUOTE] Agreed. It's the only way to get a proper reading (That's why I had asked Konstantinos in the first place how he determined the gas mileage) __________________ "Let our manners distinguish us from our enemies, as much as the cause we are engaged in" Last edited by Gatekeeper; 02-26-2011 at 07:03 AM..
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02-26-2011, 06:56 AM	#25
Konstantinos80 New Member 3 Rep 23 Posts Drives: X1soon Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Greece iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the reassurance! Yes, I had 5th gear and the indicator was always above 10 so possibly the test car was not in the best shape. Glad to know that the 1.8sdrive manual petrol car will not have such a consumption! Now just got to wait a few more weeks to pick the car up, post pics and verify the consumption!
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02-26-2011, 07:14 AM	#26
manicm First Lieutenant 11 Rep 375 Posts Drives: X1 sDrive18i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SA iTrader: (0)	Hold on, you said 5th gear? That's probably why it was heavy on fuel, cruising at over 100 you ought to have been in 6th!
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manicm First Lieutenant 11 Rep 375 Posts Drives: X1 sDrive18i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SA iTrader: (0)	I've heard bits of Vaughn Williams and it was fantastic - where do I start?
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Gatekeeper Captain 11 Rep 630 Posts Drives: BMW 320d Security Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France iTrader: (0)	I'm sure he was thinking of the Burgundy Dales when he composed "The Lark Ascending" ! But I digress... How about "amazon dot whatever" it is in South Africa ? __________________ "Let our manners distinguish us from our enemies, as much as the cause we are engaged in"
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HelVan Enlisted Member 1 Rep 41 Posts Drives: X1 xDrive 18d Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norway iTrader: (0)	Diesel here aswell... because of the high petrol prices .. and when im gonna sell it again, its much easier selling a diesel here. and of course the economic aspect with lower usage than petrol...
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nathan35 Private 1 Rep 71 Posts Drives: X1 sDrive18d Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Netherlands iTrader: (0)	Wanted more fuel-efficiency, so went for diesel despite a higher price of the car.... and I haven't been disappointed: 6.5 l/100km in mixed traffic, managed to go down to 5 while steady cruising @110 kph on highway. Find the engine a little intrusive at low rpm though, the whole cabin, gear handle and pedals shaking... that's the only slight disappointment, this is my first bimmer and was expecting a little higher vibration and noise insulation.
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02-28-2011, 07:22 PM	#33
Konstantinos80 New Member 3 Rep 23 Posts Drives: X1soon Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Greece iTrader: (0)	Well, It is going to take longer to solve the mystery... The dealer just rang and announced a two month delay... Pushing it to at least a 5 month wait from Germany to Greece. The problem is in Greek customs.. But I guess it will be worth the wait!
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03-04-2011, 11:38 AM	#44
ady New Member 4 Rep 16 Posts Drives: BMW X1 SE 20D Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WALES iTrader: (0)	With diesel at £1.39 a ltr in the U.K need I say more...
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