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      03-01-2011, 06:10 PM   #1
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Manual 23d Xdrive

Hi ... new here from Australia ... and looking to buy an X1. My dealer can source a manual which has lots of appeal, but they don't have a manual demo. Is there anyone who has a manual 23d who can tell me how they feel about the clutch and gear shift?

For example, is the clutch action light, and is the shift a short or long throw, as well as general clutch behabviour (hard or easy to stall etc.)

Also does the cruise control cut out when the clutch is depressed?

Would appreciate any feedback, even from non 23d manual owners, as I guess the transmission may be similar?

Thanks in advance ....... Dan
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Hi Danintas and welcome aboard...

Well, strange question... You don't stall with any type of clutch which is working properly, you just get used to the play and adapt your own sync..
Do you actually have any experience at all with a standard, or would the X1 be your first shot at it ?

Anyway, it's German so it's rather firm and catches quick with a short play. Nothing different from most European cars really...

I didn't even know the 23d was available with a standard...
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Thanks for the reply Gatekeeper ... most of the cars I've owned have been manuals. I understand the manual has only just become available for the 23d.

My dealer though did manage to find a manual 20d for me to drive ... the clutch action and gear shift were good; what wasn't so good though (for my extra wide feet) was the lack of foot room and the RHD Australian models appear to have the pedals somewhat offset to the right.

I've decided to stick with my decision to buy an X1, but will definitely opt for the auto.

Cheers ....... Dan

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Thanks for the reply Gatekeeper ... most of the cars I've owned have been manuals. I understand the manual has only just become available for the 23d.

My dealer though did manage to find a manual 20d for me to drive ... the clutch action and gear shift were good; what wasn't so good though (for my extra wide feet) was the lack of foot room and the RHD Australian models appear to have the pedals somewhat offset to the right.

I've decided to stick with my decision to buy an X1, but will definitely opt for the auto.

Cheers ....... Dan
Hi Dan welcome on the forum here. Good choice with the X1 and the 2.3d has some good grunt to it.

I have the auto on my 2.0d (my first auto) and have never regretted it.
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I'm probably too used to my Focus's toe-light clutch and gearbox, but when I test drove my friend's new 320d manual a few years ago I thought - why put yourself through this torture? One gets used to a car but I found the clutch too catchy and the gearshift too notchy.

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Also does the cruise control cut out when the clutch is depressed?
Have seen that you already made up your mind for the auto, but just fyi: in the manual, the cruise control stays on even when you change gears.
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Thanks for the reply Gatekeeper ... most of the cars I've owned have been manuals. I understand the manual has only just become available for the 23d.

My dealer though did manage to find a manual 20d for me to drive ... the clutch action and gear shift were good; what wasn't so good though (for my extra wide feet) was the lack of foot room and the RHD Australian models appear to have the pedals somewhat offset to the right.

I've decided to stick with my decision to buy an X1, but will definitely opt for the auto.

Cheers ....... Dan
Right... The offset pedals.. Designed as a LHD some cars have that problem with their RHD versions. Audis being particularly bad in that respect.

Can't tell for the X1 though.. Our Commonwealth members have not really brought it up as far as I can tell.

Auto is a good choice though. Wouldve taken 20d auto myself had I had some say in the matter.
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Right... The offset pedals.. Designed as a LHD some cars have that problem with their RHD versions. Audis being particularly bad in that respect.

Can't tell for the X1 though.. Our Commonwealth members have not really brought it up as far as I can tell.

Auto is a good choice though. Wouldve taken 20d auto myself had I had some say in the matter.
I did not notice the offset on the X1 manual so it must be slight. Audi Q5 was terrible, even present on the auto.
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Thanks for your replies ... I ordered yesterday a car which had been unallcoated from a mid February build. It's an auto Cashmere 23d with black leather, sunroof, electric sports seats, 18" 5 spoke wheels, performance control, xenon and adaptive headlights, professional nav, upgraded hi-fi and a few other minor things.

Wil hopefully take delivery mid to late April
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"unallcoated" ? What does that mean ?

(English is still a second language to me... )
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"unallcoated" ? What does that mean ?

(English is still a second language to me... )
Its a car thats in the build queue but has not been sold (ie allocated to a buyer) yet. Also happens when a buyer cancels an order.
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Its a car thats in the build queue but has not been sold (ie allocated to a buyer) .
unallcoated?? => unallocated ??
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unallcoated?? => unallocated ??
Did not spot that
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unallcoated?? => unallocated ??
I guess that's what Danintas meant yes !
Which of course makes it very clear all of a sudden !

Thanks Mario !
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Oops ... a bad spelling mistake ... sorry

It was a vehicle ordered but not sold and is on the way to Tasmania
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