First experience in the snow !!

loukas135 · 11-24-2011, 07:02 AM

In a single word: WOW !!!!!!

The first time for me with an all wheel drive vehicle in the snow. I can't compare with other system like Audi Quatro, Mercedes 4Motion, Subaru ... But let me tell you that BMW has a hell of a system with xDrive.

I'm very very impressed. Finally, winter's not gona be that bad this year after all

Have a nice day everybody !

Blue Bottle · 11-24-2011, 07:28 AM

Pic's please. Do it again and get some photos...

mario486 · 11-24-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loukas135

In a single word: WOW !!!!!!

The first time for me with an all wheel drive vehicle in the snow. I can't compare with other system like Audi Quatro, Mercedes 4Motion, Subaru ... But let me tell you that BMW has a hell of a system with xDrive.

I'm very very impressed. Finally, winter's not gona be that bad this year after all

Have a nice day everybody !

My experience last year as well, albeit on winter rubber

Blue Bottle · 11-27-2011, 01:35 PM

winter photos needed please folks....

tompak23d · 11-28-2011, 04:21 PM

Hmm, I´m not that impressed... When turning out on a slippery road, the AWD grips with a big bang im my car, same with my friends 5-series. I also do not feel the same confidence as in my earlier Audi A4. That car was outstanding in slippery road conditions...

Blue Bottle · 11-30-2011, 05:34 AM

What do you mean by saying "it grips with a big bang"..Grip must be good and so many people have said its great in the Snow. I am so looking forward to the 4WD vice my current E46 which was rubbish in last years snow, mind I did have summer tyres on it as we dont normally get the amount of snow we got last year..No sign of it here yet either!

mario486 · 11-30-2011, 10:27 AM

Possibly some snow on the cards this Sunday evening into the first part of next week.

Have 4x4, have winter rubba, will take pics.....if it snows

PS: Also have chains, shovel, traction tracks, bag of grit, tow rope if I get stuck

Blue Bottle · 11-30-2011, 10:39 AM

Mario, hope you have fun and looking forward to the Pics if possible, you listen out for that Big Bang...

dr.rock · 12-02-2011, 11:01 AM

Lots of snow to drive around in here and so far I have been impressed. Managed to keep it between the snowbanks so far and have had no problems dusting my brother in-law in his A4. Traction was good with the all-seasons, but is amazing with the snowies on.
A white-out drive to the mountains and ski hill access roads will be better tests.

tompak23d · 12-02-2011, 01:44 PM

I mean that it comes a lot of a noise when the AWD grips, and i does not feel good and safe at all. Not as safe as the quattro system in my previous A4. I can tell you that I have had a lot of AWD cars, Volvos, Audis, Bimmers, Hyundais, SAABs, and as I live in Sweden I know what bad road conditions are... Unfortantly the X1 is second from the end regarding the AWD, only Hyundai is is worse. But, as always, that is MY opinion...

loukas135 · 12-04-2011, 11:33 AM

Don't know why you drive a X1 then ... The xDrive has a great reputation in general so your comments seems out of proportion. Second to Hyundai's awd system ??? This is my first "AWD" but have been able to try a Subaru outback and I could tell BMW didn't lack anything in term of efficiency.

If this is your opinion, I suggest you put a "for sale" sticker on your BMW and ran back to an Audi A4 which I'm sure is a terrific and great car to drive.

I feel sorry for you ... You don't belong to the "B" brand obviously.

Have a nice day

Costin · 12-04-2011, 12:28 PM

Xdrive is a bit different than quattro.
Two years ago, when I first tested the car on a sky hill up & down I was also impressed by the car. But the snow was fresh. When it gets slippery you need to control the gas...

Blue Bottle · 12-04-2011, 12:57 PM

Costin, is that not true of any car, that you should control the gas if its slippery, what's different with the XDrive.

loukas135 · 12-04-2011, 03:31 PM

Maybe it's me but I'm starting to think that the ol question may be the presence or not of the DSC. The xDrive will continue to work without it as well and there should'nt be any intrusion in the engine revolution or the brakes ... Maybe this is what the issue is actually. I didn't try the xDrive without the DSC so when we get enough snow I will. Just to validate the point.

Canadian eh! · 12-04-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by loukas135

Maybe it's me but I'm starting to think that the ol question may be the presence or not of the DSC. The xDrive will continue to work without it as well and there should'nt be any intrusion in the engine revolution or the brakes ... Maybe this is what the issue is actually. I didn't try the xDrive without the DSC so when we get enough snow I will. Just to validate the point.

I think you are right on with this thinking. The big "bang" is likely the brakes kicking in to stop a wildly spinning wheel. The differential will proportion front to back but in very slippery conditions the abs system gets pulled into play to slow individual wheels. Audi does this more mechanically in the differential I believe. So if you were hammering the throttle and getting no traction from a given wheel, it could give a banging sound as it stopped suddenly with the brake. Maybe , possibly......

Traction control off .... In a scenario with no traction front or rear, the system would transfer power front and back but with no grip they would just spin and not be controlled with the brakes.

maybe

I am going to try and find a good description of the drive system functionality and post it.

Costin · 12-05-2011, 09:48 AM

"Costin, is that not true of any car, that you should control the gas if its slippery, what's different with the XDrive."

IMHO with a lot of power comes a lot of useless spin...

"Traction control off .... In a scenario with no traction front or rear, the system would transfer power front and back but with no grip they would just spin and not be controlled with the brakes"

I think this is true, but I've tried on sand and I didn't get any help from DSC Off

tompak23d · 12-06-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by loukas135

Don't know why you drive a X1 then ... The xDrive has a great reputation in general so your comments seems out of proportion. Second to Hyundai's awd system ??? This is my first "AWD" but have been able to try a Subaru outback and I could tell BMW didn't lack anything in term of efficiency.

If this is your opinion, I suggest you put a "for sale" sticker on your BMW and ran back to an Audi A4 which I'm sure is a terrific and great car to drive.

I feel sorry for you ... You don't belong to the "B" brand obviously.

Have a nice day

Jesus, take it easy. Just explaining my thoughts about the different cars. Hard for you to take my criticism about the X1??? I am not so happy paying 560 000 SEK for my car with this poor AWD system. Why don´t you try some other cars and compare the AWD systems yourself.

Have a nice day...

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tompak23d Private First Class 4 Rep 125 Posts Drives: iX M60 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ludvika iTrader: (0)	Hmm, I´m not that impressed... When turning out on a slippery road, the AWD grips with a big bang im my car, same with my friends 5-series. I also do not feel the same confidence as in my earlier Audi A4. That car was outstanding in slippery road conditions...
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tompak23d Private First Class 4 Rep 125 Posts Drives: iX M60 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ludvika iTrader: (0)	I mean that it comes a lot of a noise when the AWD grips, and i does not feel good and safe at all. Not as safe as the quattro system in my previous A4. I can tell you that I have had a lot of AWD cars, Volvos, Audis, Bimmers, Hyundais, SAABs, and as I live in Sweden I know what bad road conditions are... Unfortantly the X1 is second from the end regarding the AWD, only Hyundai is is worse. But, as always, that is MY opinion...
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loukas135 Private First Class 24 Rep 123 Posts Drives: BMW X1 xDrive28i M Sport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	Don't know why you drive a X1 then ... The xDrive has a great reputation in general so your comments seems out of proportion. Second to Hyundai's awd system ??? This is my first "AWD" but have been able to try a Subaru outback and I could tell BMW didn't lack anything in term of efficiency. If this is your opinion, I suggest you put a "for sale" sticker on your BMW and ran back to an Audi A4 which I'm sure is a terrific and great car to drive. I feel sorry for you ... You don't belong to the "B" brand obviously. Have a nice day
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Costin New Member 0 Rep 11 Posts Drives: x1 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Romania iTrader: (0)	Xdrive is a bit different than quattro. Two years ago, when I first tested the car on a sky hill up & down I was also impressed by the car. But the snow was fresh. When it gets slippery you need to control the gas...
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Blue Bottle Lieutenant 10 Rep 533 Posts Drives: X1 x Drive 2.0L D Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Swindon iTrader: (0)	Costin, is that not true of any car, that you should control the gas if its slippery, what's different with the XDrive.
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loukas135 Private First Class 24 Rep 123 Posts Drives: BMW X1 xDrive28i M Sport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	Maybe it's me but I'm starting to think that the ol question may be the presence or not of the DSC. The xDrive will continue to work without it as well and there should'nt be any intrusion in the engine revolution or the brakes ... Maybe this is what the issue is actually. I didn't try the xDrive without the DSC so when we get enough snow I will. Just to validate the point. Last edited by loukas135; 12-04-2011 at 03:39 PM..
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