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      06-22-2013, 02:44 PM   #45
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30mpg highway driving fully loaded with a Thule Pulse L on the roof. XDrive 28i. 3000 miles on it.
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      06-23-2013, 11:52 AM   #46
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I've got a brand new 35i, and over the first 400km I've been averaging 19.5mpg with 50/50 driving...
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      06-23-2013, 12:02 PM   #47
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      06-25-2013, 08:44 AM   #48
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The EPA does not set the ratings you see on the Monroney label, and neither do they they verify the majority of the claims. The EPA provides the testing procedures and trusts the manufacturers to follow them and assign their own numbers. Only about 15% of vehicle models are actually tested by the EPA. So yes - speculation is that some manufacturers are gaming the procedures, with Hyundai and Ford receiving the most complaints. BMW initially attempted to give the F30 328 a highway rating of 36 or 37 mpg, but after validation testing the EPA forced them to lower it to 34. To my knowledge no such analysis took place on the X1. But common sense dictates that the X1 with more frontal area and a higher cd should not perform as well as the 3-Series. It's no surprise that 3-Series and 5-Series loaners I've had have both returned substantially better real world fuel economy.
People need to read above post again because its spot on. Simply no way in hell the X1 28i xdrive matches the EPA REVISED 33 hwy fuel economy of the 328 xdrive (that I still say is very optimistic- I think EPA tested a RWD car) with the same powertrain, gearing, less weight and significantly better Cd. Grovsnus- with $4+ premium fuel and ppl worried about it going to $5+ most people in this class of car do care about fuel economy even if it is second to performance for many. BMW should be doing the right thing by taking the X1 28s numbers down. EPA is really to blame but may not care too much as its a niche model here but honestly some geek in a lab coat could do 10 minutes of analysis and come up with something closer to reality. OK, I'll do it 19/28, hmm doesn't have as a nice a ring to it anymore does it? Still, its still pretty damn good for an AWD 3700lb I don't care what you call it vehicle that gets to 60 in ~6 sec. But the N20 sounds bad and has the potential to get much worse fuel economy if you like to have fun. Therefore I conclude the 35i wins easily if you don't want to drive your X1 like a prius only to get high 20s if you're lucky (and good)- really what's the point in that?

Grovsnus: Tell your Prius friends TDI FTW:

http://wot.motortrend.com/volkswagen...-s-381259.html
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      06-25-2013, 03:22 PM   #49
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I think people are just whining too much and expect too much from their vehicle. As for gas prices, I hope they get ridiculous. They determine my pay check, and since I'm a greedy person, I want a bigger cheque.
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      06-25-2013, 06:34 PM   #50
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Grovsnus: Tell your Prius friends TDI FTW:

http://wot.motortrend.com/volkswagen...-s-381259.html
No argument from me there Except where the hybrid is used for extra horsepower and not to save fuel, I'd take a TDI over a hybrid any day. Though I wish there were more models to choose from here in the US, and the same fuel quality as in Europe.
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      06-25-2013, 08:52 PM   #51
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Certainly not a niche product for BMW, X1's outsold X3's in May each with over 14,000 units worldwide. I think the X1 will pass the X3 in the US because of the price point being the entry level to get into a BMW. I can certainly see how it could get the EPA numbers especially on the hwy. The several hwy trips we have taken have all been about 30 mpg avg but at substantially higher speeds and not steady speeds or flat. We're only getting about 21.5 city but it depends on what you call true city driving. Our city driving would be mostly 1-3 miles of stop lights and stop signs going with moderate traffic.
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      06-25-2013, 09:22 PM   #52
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10k NA sales thru May on a brand new (to us) vehicle. Not bad but I sure don't see many around, which I like just as with my E82. Right, 30 and your car is rwd with electric steering that I'd bet gets more than 1 better than the awd real world.
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      06-29-2013, 11:03 PM   #53
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I hope I get mid 20's or I would have gone for an x6 instead of an x1 :P (I jest.. kind of..)
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      07-01-2013, 10:40 AM   #54
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I'm on my second full tank of my x28 (bought June 7th)

Averaging about 23.5/23.7 miles it's 70% city and 30% highway....I'm still in the break in period but getting about ~400 miles out from fillup
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      07-01-2013, 04:41 PM   #55
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Had an X1 as a loaner for a week+, very good mileage overall with mixed driving. Definitely getting some serious consideration from my wife and I.
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      07-02-2013, 02:28 PM   #56
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Have about 3k miles on my x1 sdrive averaging about 25-29 mpg overall. 40% city 60% highway with some spirit driving.

Based on my experience, I figure out:
1) Eco Pro mode improves efficiency by only 0.5 to 1 mpg at most even if I use it whenever I can.
2) 50% of the time - I ride alone and get 22-30(really depend on how I drive).
40% of the time - I ride with my girlfriend and get 26-29
10% of the time - two more passengers at the back and I get only 24-26
Same driver, similar route and I am a more aggressive driver when I am driving alone. I usually drive slower when there're passengers. So if I am right, every 150 lbs human being will lower the efficiency by about 1 mpg.
3) MPG drops significantly when over 75 mph.

I am satisfied (not impressed but satisfied) with the efficiency so far. The EPA result is achievable but you have to really work hard to get that.
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      07-02-2013, 05:23 PM   #57
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2) 50% of the time - I ride alone and get 22-30(really depend on how I drive).
40% of the time - I ride with my girlfriend and get 26-29
Can I borrow your girlfriend?
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      07-02-2013, 06:21 PM   #58
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Can I borrow your girlfriend?
I bet you don't want to.

She just can't stop talking and I have to pay attention to her (you know what gonna happen if I don't) so I can never really concentrate on driving when she's next to me. And she got a lot to say when I go little faster
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      07-10-2013, 06:30 PM   #59
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I'm driving an X1 2011 Xdrive20d
(has 50,000kms on the clock now)

The rated economy for this car is:
7.0L/100kms (33mpg) City
5.1L/100kms (46mpg)Highway

I do 80% around town (not heavy traffic at all) and sometimes drive on freeways which are fast flowing. Rarely do stop start, bumper to bumper.

I tried lightly and don't accelerate hard to try test the economy.
Average consumption has never shown less than 9.3L/100kms by the end of the fuel cycle. (25mpg)
The only way I can get it to be lower is be on the freeway then reset the computer then, and it will show about 7-8's but thats cheating.. It will average out back to about 9.3, maybe higher
I have NEVER got more than 600kms (372miles) from a tank .. usually about 550kms (340miles) a tank.

Now I don't expect to get factory ratings...

But very disappointed when
A) My last car VW Jetta Diesel which has WORSE economy on factory rating than my X1 managed to do average of 6.5L/100kms (36mpg) each and every fuel cycle.

B) When I tested my brothers E90 320i which is a Petrol... it can easily do 9.9L/100kms on same driving roads/style. Thats not much difference from a diesel... and sounds a hell of a lot better.

So I wonder if there is something wrong with my car or whether BMW just overstate fuel figures.
My next car won't be a diesel if that's the case.

I would have to say my X1 has been one of the best looking cars I've bought but the most disappointing to own. (handling and acceleration not as sharp as the test car!)
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      07-10-2013, 07:18 PM   #60
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I tried lightly and don't accelerate hard to try test the economy.
It's been mentioned a few times here by various people, but it's not primarily acceleration that kills mileage on a somewhat heavy car like this, but using the brakes. One way to save fuel is to accelerate up to above what you would normally do, and then glide for as long as possible. Try to not hit the gas pedal on inclines, but roll up using the momentum, even if you slow down. Cause it's much cheaper to accelerate down a hill than up one. And avoid braking, especially late braking to a stop, or right before a curve. That's where most people lose fuel.
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      07-10-2013, 08:59 PM   #61
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It's been mentioned a few times here by various people, but it's not primarily acceleration that kills mileage on a somewhat heavy car like this, but using the brakes. One way to save fuel is to accelerate up to above what you would normally do, and then glide for as long as possible. Try to not hit the gas pedal on inclines, but roll up using the momentum, even if you slow down. Cause it's much cheaper to accelerate down a hill than up one. And avoid braking, especially late braking to a stop, or right before a curve. That's where most people lose fuel.
True that.
I understand the extra weight and have tried to roll it as much as possible as you say.. I do accelarte to where I want to be and then go easy from then..

But I got to say I did not have to control my driving style one bit on the VW TDi. No matter how I drove I could get 6.5-6.8L/100kms ..
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      07-12-2013, 10:01 AM   #62
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Bottom line as I see it:
If you purchased the X1 28i Xdrive thinking you'd easily clear 30mpg highway(reasonable given 33 epa est.) without having to employ any hypermiling techniques, unfortunately you've been misled. Bright side: the car is still pretty damn quick, handles well, is not very light and does get almost CR-V type fuel economy, which as I've said is still very decent for the package.
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      07-13-2013, 06:02 PM   #63
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Thursday I drove from Los Angeles to Danville which is 40 mikes east of San Francisco. After usual LA congestion I took a brief detour to Thousand Oaks then had some slow patches over the Grapevine due to usual interminable road maintenance/construction. Whole trip was just over 400 miles. I drove 75 with EcoPro for most of it. sDrive 28.

Filled tank Friday. Drove 424.6 miles on 13.02 gallons. My calculator tells me that's 32.6 MPG. So I didn't hit 34 but it wasn't pure highway driving either.

By the way it was my first time to use Cruise Control and I forgot to review the manual. Found it fairly easy to figure it out on my own but I did reach for the turn signal stalk a couple of times. Not optimal to have those so close but since I personally use CC so rarely, not a biggie.

Hopefully will at least match 32.6 on my return trip Monday.
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      07-16-2013, 07:39 AM   #64
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Exclamation Look at fuelly.com for MPG

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Do they not have diesels in the states yet? I have the X drive 18d 140 bhp 320nm torque. Fuel consumption does improve with mileage. I have now done 13k miles. I do mostly short journeys and average 37-40 mpg in summer. In winter it goes down to 34 mpg. On a long run I average 50 mpg.
Look at fuelly.com for MPG for various cars!
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      07-16-2013, 08:18 AM   #65
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Monday I returned to Los Angeles from San Francisco/East Bay area in my sDrive28. Used EcoPro on highway and a lot of cruise control at about 75. I decided to stop and fill up a little over halfway home, with over half a tank left.

The pump stopped at 6.25 gallons, and I had done 246 miles at that point. When I got home I picked up the calculator. 39+MPG!

BUT - then I had to wonder - did I check to see that the tank was actually full after pumping gas? I didn't. When I first had the car, the first few times I gassed up I would have to make sure I got a fill-up, because sometimes the pump would switch off prematurely. But that's been months, and the X1 always fills up at auto pump shut-off now.

But I suppose 39 is unusually high enough to indicate that it must not have been a complete fill up.

I won't fill up again for several days. And I am back in LA now, and more "city" driving. But if that next fill-up calculations seem low, that would probably verify that I didn't really fill the tank yesterday.

By the way, on my trip computer, my car now has - since purchase - an average speed of just over 35 mph and average of MPG of exactly 28! Coming up on 9000 miles. So happy overall.
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Thought I'd post a couple pics to provide visual proof on my MPG. I suspect others are like me and don't necessarily take everything read here at face value. Especially the "prices paid" threads with the "under invoice and the salesmen gave me his first born child too!" type entries.

So after my first long road trip (about 800 round trip in my sDrive28, a lot of cruisy highway miles), I finally hit the sticker's avg consumption of 28.

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I am a Los Angeles resident, so I thought I would include avg speed as well. You can see I'm coming up on 9000 miles since purchase. Computer has never been reset.

I used cruise control a fair amount on the trip, and I always use EcoPro on freeways. At high speeds I don't feel EcoPro holds me back. I passed one annoying truck (passing an even more annoying truck on a two lane) on my trip and shocked myself by how quickly I went from 65 to over 90. Glad there wasn't a cop around at that moment. So that trip took me from avg MPG of 26.7, where I'd been stuck for quite a while, to 28 on the nose. Now that I am back to my usual LA commute, we'll see how long it stays there...
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