any landlords here?

335twins · 03-02-2015, 06:52 PM

like the title says, is there any landlords here? I have a problem with a tenant that leased my house, horrible experience, total liar and I'm in the process of evicting her. is there anything else I can do to blast her name/company so other landlords don't get burned by her?

Thank you

ASBSECU E93 · 03-02-2015, 06:56 PM

Short answer - no.

grieverr · 03-02-2015, 07:06 PM

Sounds more like you want some payback because of this negative experience. Just evict her and be done with it.

You don't want that somehow flipping on you and making her out to be the victim.

TXSTYLE · 03-02-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Short answer - no.

This. You have to be VERY careful as "defamation of character" is really big these days. A Lawyer friend of mine is making hand over fist for clients suing for this very reason.
I know it sucks. But your best bet is to hurry and get her sorry ass up out of their, go in and fix the place back up and get it rented out again. Of course is they knocked holes in walls or burned up carpet or some shit, then you can take her to small claims. Even if she's broke, a judgement against her will stick for up to 20yrs. So if and when they become solvent, you can collect with interest. Of course if she files BK then you're SOL.

jfiore13 · 03-02-2015, 07:27 PM

Yes I'm a landlord. I had an experience like yours. Best thing is to hurry the process up as much as you can and get her out. One lesson I learned it to try and choose people with good credit. They pay no problem and take care of your home.
Just my 2 cents.
John

Classic_Blunders · 03-02-2015, 07:36 PM

Louie, if you fix one shitty toilet, I'll disown you. One toilet, you're out of the will!

954Stealth · 03-02-2015, 07:49 PM

LexisNexis?

ShocknAwe · 03-02-2015, 07:56 PM

OP: Go read your AZ Property Code

http://www.azleg.gov/ArizonaRevisedS...s.asp?Title=33

Chapter 3, article 3-4

Easy answer, No. Obey the law while evicting her and be more careful choosing tenants next time.

PINeely · 03-02-2015, 08:09 PM

Yeah, you can't do that. Just get them the hell out ASAP.

TrevorM3 · 03-02-2015, 08:13 PM

give her the boot, and move forward. it's no use.. you can't win. trust me.

roastbeef · 03-02-2015, 08:41 PM

i'm not going to berate you or anything, but i'm curious as to how much due diligence you did in your checks to ensure she would be a good tenant.

references?
credit?
work?

with the benefit of hind sight, were there any tip-offs or hints of this? i'm only asking because i'm a landlord myself and i have only had one long-term tenant. i'm going to be picking up more properties, and every little tip from experience helps.

335twins · 03-02-2015, 09:03 PM

wow, alot of responses here, first I want to say that I am using a property manager so eviction is in place and will find out tomorrow what the ruling was. my property manager checks credit/past history of renting etc.... she basically lied on her application across the board as far as her business etc....basically she was using my house for her own deed, renting bung beds etc even though the contract said only her and other person will occupy the house. I'm ok with her getting out of there as long as the house is in good shape. if not do I take her to small claims court?

I gotta admit that the property manager is doing doing a great job as I had to do some investigate work to find all this out myself..

TXSTYLE · 03-02-2015, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 335twins

I'm ok with her getting out of there as long as the house is in good shape. if not do I take her to small claims court?

Refer to post # 4

FC4 · 03-02-2015, 09:18 PM

This is why it's best practice to discriminate as much as possible when you're granting someone the privilege of being your tenant.

335twins · 03-02-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335twins

I'm ok with her getting out of there as long as the house is in good shape. if not do I take her to small claims court?

Refer to post # 4

got it, we shall see what happens when I go into the house.

is anyone using or used warehouse rentals for their property management?

UncleWede · 03-03-2015, 10:03 AM

Property management is a necessary evil, at best. Our family trust does all the work except for 2 out of state properties. Guess which ones we have all the trouble with? They were growing weed in the basement and our manager didn't know. . . Not only do we do all the maintenance, we also do regular inspections to make sure things don't get out of control. Even with a lawyer in the family, we still have some issues with getting people out, and I'm made more than a few appearances in small claims court to testify to the condition of a property before and after a tenant was there.
The PM does not care if your property gets trashed, only that it is rented and they get their fee.

The ONLY thing you can legally do, IF you ever get a reference request, is to be honest in the things you can prove were occurring that lead to the eviction for breach of contract, and include a copy of the publicly available eviction judgment..

Bobble · 03-03-2015, 10:45 AM

we use a PM for our rentals and she does in fact care about condition for both sides and is quite the bitch when applying; pulls credit , rental history(evictions) and references etc.. Never had an issue in the 10 years we've used her. Had to evict one person once before using a PM and short answer to the original question is no. I'd personally refer any requests to the publicly available eviction notice and not say a word .
My sister has a rental is a shady part of OC and has had a tenant come back on her after eviction and sue for defamation which went nowhere but did cost time to fight it.(Can't get your own personal time which you cannot quantify back in any judgment).

335twins · 03-03-2015, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

we use a PM for our rentals and she does in fact care about condition for both sides and is quite the bitch when applying; pulls credit , rental history(evictions) and references etc.. Never had an issue in the 10 years we've used her. Had to evict one person once before using a PM and short answer to the original question is no. I'd personally refer any requests to the publicly available eviction notice and not say a word .
My sister has a rental is a shady part of OC and has had a tenant come back on her after eviction and sue for defamation which went nowhere but did cost time to fight it.(Can't get your own personal time which you cannot quantify back in any judgment).

The problem with checking on your condition of the property is that you need to let the tenant know 24 hrs in advance, and even if you go in and find your house destroyed you cant do anything because the tenant has the right to fix whatever is destroyed when the lease expired and they move out.

Another situation: tenants contract states that only 2-3 people will be living there, you go in for inspection and see bunch of bunk beds, alot more than for 2-3 people, how do you go about that? how do you prove and take them to court that she is in breached of the contract?

954Stealth · 03-03-2015, 02:44 PM

Burn it down

upstatedoc · 03-03-2015, 03:06 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I can't believe that these type of people exist. Who the fuck do they think they are that they can treat someone else's property with disrespect? IT'S NOT YOUR PROPERTY DIRTBAG!! She should be shot.

335twins · 03-03-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I can't believe that these type of people exist. Who the fuck do they think they are that they can treat someone else's property with disrespect? IT'S NOT YOUR PROPERTY DIRTBAG!! She should be shot.

those are the low life's of our society, some people work hard to gain something in life and better themselves/familly/society and others screw you...but I believe that what goes around comes around...

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grieverr Private First Class 29 Rep 174 Posts Drives: F32 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here iTrader: (0)	Sounds more like you want some payback because of this negative experience. Just evict her and be done with it. You don't want that somehow flipping on you and making her out to be the victim.
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jfiore13 Second Lieutenant 71 Rep 293 Posts Drives: black 2018 M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: sparta, NJ iTrader: (1)	Yes I'm a landlord. I had an experience like yours. Best thing is to hurry the process up as much as you can and get her out. One lesson I learned it to try and choose people with good credit. They pay no problem and take care of your home. Just my 2 cents. John
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roastbeef Lieutenant General 11585 Rep 12,724 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (4)	i'm not going to berate you or anything, but i'm curious as to how much due diligence you did in your checks to ensure she would be a good tenant. references? credit? work? with the benefit of hind sight, were there any tip-offs or hints of this? i'm only asking because i'm a landlord myself and i have only had one long-term tenant. i'm going to be picking up more properties, and every little tip from experience helps. __________________ Instagram; @roastbeefmike
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335twins Captain 142 Rep 737 Posts Drives: 2020 x3 M40i, 2019 M2Comp Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: AZ iTrader: (1)	wow, alot of responses here, first I want to say that I am using a property manager so eviction is in place and will find out tomorrow what the ruling was. my property manager checks credit/past history of renting etc.... she basically lied on her application across the board as far as her business etc....basically she was using my house for her own deed, renting bung beds etc even though the contract said only her and other person will occupy the house. I'm ok with her getting out of there as long as the house is in good shape. if not do I take her to small claims court? I gotta admit that the property manager is doing doing a great job as I had to do some investigate work to find all this out myself..
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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner 17977 Rep 9,377 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Dark Graphite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA iTrader: (0)	Property management is a necessary evil, at best. Our family trust does all the work except for 2 out of state properties. Guess which ones we have all the trouble with? They were growing weed in the basement and our manager didn't know. . . Not only do we do all the maintenance, we also do regular inspections to make sure things don't get out of control. Even with a lawyer in the family, we still have some issues with getting people out, and I'm made more than a few appearances in small claims court to testify to the condition of a property before and after a tenant was there. The PM does not care if your property gets trashed, only that it is rented and they get their fee. The ONLY thing you can legally do, IF you ever get a reference request, is to be honest in the things you can prove were occurring that lead to the eviction for breach of contract, and include a copy of the publicly available eviction judgment..
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