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      06-15-2013, 08:42 PM   #1
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Unhappy X1 mileage, getting worried.................

2014 X1 28i all wheel drive
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60% city / 40% highway
conservative driving, no fast starts etc. coast when I can
A/C used on highway - open windows on street
Using ECO doesn't make much difference, maybe .5 better MPG's

only 21 MPG

Will the MPG's improve after more miles and if so how many miles toachive a decent MPG such as 24 ?

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      06-15-2013, 09:20 PM   #2
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60% city
there is your problem... EPA estimates are based on the best conditions.

Also engine may have more break in -- I have 7k now and my mpg went up 2 mpg after 3k miles.

just my $.02
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      06-15-2013, 09:52 PM   #3
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Open windows lowers your gas mileage.
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      06-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #4
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My first tank average was probably under 20 mpg under the conditions you were describing. Second tank I did 30% city 70% freeway and got 29.6 mpg we'll see what I get on the next one..
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      06-15-2013, 10:37 PM   #5
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While I can get close to EPA estimate HWY, I only get ~18 MPG city. Lots of stop lights where I live.
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      06-16-2013, 07:18 AM   #6
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Would have to go and look at the EPA test parameters again. Look and see how the cars were driven in the tests to get the ratings they did.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml




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      06-16-2013, 05:48 PM   #7
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Great.... another gas mileage thread.... when are people going to stop beating the dead horse?
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      06-16-2013, 07:30 PM   #8
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Great.... another gas mileage thread.... when are people going to stop beating the dead horse?
Truly. When you buy a BMW, mileage shouldn't be a major buying decision or later worry. The Prius forum is over there --------->
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      06-17-2013, 02:21 AM   #9
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Great.... another gas mileage thread.... when are people going to stop beating the dead horse?
Exactly. Go return some pop bottles and STFU
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      06-17-2013, 03:03 AM   #10
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I disagree - a lot of X1 buyers chose that particular model for its perceived fuel economy as well as its performance and brand (I know I did). That being said, I'm more than happy with the 25mpg I average with (usually) three passengers and the heaviest foot imaginable.
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      06-17-2013, 06:36 AM   #11
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Do they not have diesels in the states yet? I have the X drive 18d 140 bhp 320nm torque. Fuel consumption does improve with mileage. I have now done 13k miles. I do mostly short journeys and average 37-40 mpg in summer. In winter it goes down to 34 mpg. On a long run I average 50 mpg.
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      06-17-2013, 11:22 AM   #12
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No USA diesels yet, dammit! And we likely would not get the 18d anyway when it does happen.
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      06-17-2013, 11:53 AM   #13
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I am close to 3K miles and i am getting 18.6MPG in my 35i. I drive 80% city and 20% highway with the ac on all the time. Eco pro is a waste of dash space.
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      06-17-2013, 09:47 PM   #14
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Do they not have diesels in the states yet? I have the X drive 18d 140 bhp 320nm torque. Fuel consumption does improve with mileage. I have now done 13k miles.
Sadly, diesel in the US isn't the same as diesel in Europe. Over here, the diesel fuel is a badly refined high sulfur product meant for tractors, sold at a higher price than petrol. It would ruin the engine of most modern European TDI cars.

Many manufacturers have (token) diesel models, but they are special US models made to run on the inferior fuel, and aren't very popular. Mostly because the US consumer doesn't know how different modern diesel engines are from the soot spewing engines of yore, yet not politically concerned enough to demand low emission diesel fuels.
And, of course, the powerful corn (maize) lobby in the US fights it, because they want a switch to E85, not diesel.

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I do mostly short journeys and average 37-40 mpg in summer. In winter it goes down to 34 mpg. On a long run I average 50 mpg.
Keep in mind that the imperial gallon is rather larger than the US gallon.
37-40 mpg (UK) =~ 31-33 mpg (US)
50 mpg (UK) =~ 41 mpg (US)

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      06-17-2013, 10:00 PM   #15
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I am close to 3K miles and i am getting 18.6MPG in my 35i. I drive 80% city and 20% highway with the ac on all the time. Eco pro is a waste of dash space.
I find it useful for one thing: It reduces the amount of air blowing on my dogs in the rear, which is useful because the X1 lacks a "rear fan off" function.

But other than that, it doesn't do a lot for the 35i. In a 28i, it reduces acceleration too, I hear, instead of just flashing a light.
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      06-18-2013, 01:49 PM   #16
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Sadly, diesel in the US isn't the same as diesel in Europe. Over here, the diesel fuel is a badly refined high sulfur product meant for tractors, sold at a higher price than petrol. It would ruin the engine of most modern European TDI cars.

Many manufacturers have (token) diesel models, but they are special US models made to run on the inferior fuel, and aren't very popular. Mostly because the US consumer doesn't know how different modern diesel engines are from the soot spewing engines of yore, yet not politically concerned enough to demand low emission diesel fuels.
And, of course, the powerful corn (maize) lobby in the US fights it, because they want a switch to E85, not diesel.


Keep in mind that the imperial gallon is rather larger than the US gallon.
37-40 mpg (UK) =~ 31-33 mpg (US)
50 mpg (UK) =~ 41 mpg (US)
Good point but still good fuel consumption compared with US petrol cars. Other thing to bear in mind is that unleaded is £6.18 a gallon and diesel is £6.32 a gallon in UK. This equates to $7.69 for unleaded and $7.87 for diesel per US gallon.

Not sure price of fuel in US but it must be at least half UK price. So this means US drivers are better off.
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      06-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #17
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I also noticed that there are a lot of different kinds of city drivings. (my guess is dpening on how far between the traffic lights). I got less than 15mpg in New York City, but got around 22mpg around my town in New Jersey. (NJ Turnpike I got 28mpg)
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      06-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #18
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At the risk of beating said dead horse, I'll add that Small turbo motors seem to be more sensitive to driving habits than larger naturally aspirated engines. For example, I can baby my x1 (28i S Drive) all the way to 34-35 mpg (still cruising with the AC on at 65-70 mph on a 90% highway tank of gas, or I'm pretty sure I can consume the fuel at a rate of 15-17 mpg or so, If I take it to the other extreme.

I, for one am AMAZED at the economy and flexibility of the X1....great MPG when I want it, but very nice performance when I'm in the mood.

Like others have said, if you wanted a Prius, you should have bought one, but if you don't know how to drive with a light foot, even that will get dissapointing mileage.
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      06-18-2013, 05:07 PM   #19
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Like others have said, if you wanted a Prius, you should have bought one, but if you don't know how to drive with a light foot, even that will get dissapointing mileage.
+1 and also compare mpg to other cars with similar hp and torque. My wifes Tiguan is 200hp and gets an combined average of anywhere from 18-23mpg depending on city/highway ratio whereas my 300hp 35i gets better mpg than hers in all areas and I drive it harder than she does hers. On my previous car (130hp) I floored it any time I wanted to accelerate at all and I got 29-31mpg regardless and I'm so happy to trade mpg for real hp.

I'd imagine that on the next X1's you'll see only a 28i and 20i option. 20i will get good gas mileage I'm sure, but I wouldn't buy it.
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I'd imagine that on the next X1's you'll see only a 28i and 20i option. 20i will get good gas mileage I'm sure, but I wouldn't buy it.
Judging by the European stats for the 20i, it doesn't get much better mileage than the 28i. It's the same engine, after all.

So why bother having a 20i then? It does appear to have lower emissions, which in some countries means far less taxes.
Some countries may also tax per horsepower (France used to do that, thus the iconic Citroen 2CV, where 2CV stood for "Deux Chaveaux Vapeur", or "two steam horses"). But for the US market, it doesn't make much sense, unless legislation changes.
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Not sure price of fuel in US but it must be at least half UK price. So this means US drivers are better off.
It varies a lot depending on where in the US you are. I pay around $3.85 per US gallon for 91 Octane (R+M)/2, which would equate to 2.95 pounds per UK gallon of 95 Octane (RON), or 0.76 Euro per liter. That's because I live at a state border, and the neighbouring state has both cheaper fuel and allow the sale of 91 octane (95 EU). If I had to buy gas in-state, it would be around 7% more expensive, and I would have to get 93 octane (98 EU) too.
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