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      02-23-2016, 05:35 PM   #1
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C43 AMG Coupe

Did you folks see this. Saw it on topgear. Looks pretty cool. Not the same power as F80/82 but looks like a fun car
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      02-23-2016, 05:42 PM   #2
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      02-23-2016, 05:49 PM   #3
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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

It's basically a C450 coupe aka 440i/S5 competitor. This thread should be posted in the 4 series subforum.
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      02-23-2016, 05:54 PM   #4
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I see it more as 440i competition.
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      02-23-2016, 06:11 PM   #5
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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

It's basically a C450 coupe aka 440i/S5 competitor. This thread should be posted in the 4 series subforum.
More like a M440i competitor for when it comes out.
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      02-23-2016, 06:51 PM   #7
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More like a M440i competitor for when it comes out.
More like M2 competitor.
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More like a M440i competitor for when it comes out.
More like M2 competitor.
Maybe in terms of price. But not in terms of market segment, performance and size.
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      02-23-2016, 07:08 PM   #9
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Maybe in terms of price. But not in terms of market segment, performance and size.
Seems similar in performance, speed at least. Agree with other points though.
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Edit: I didn't realize that the car in question was the coupe since the OP had included no link (topic now updated for clarity). Nevertheless the points remain the same. Just substitute S5 for S4 in my post.

This is nothing more than the existing Mercedes-AMG C450 Sport renamed. That car always had the Audi S4 in its sights and the new name doesn't change that fact.

Mercedes has decided that, rather than to distinguish the proper AMG models from the pseudo AMG models via different model nomenclature (two digit vs. three digit models numbers respectively), they should just use the two digit codes for anything AMG. It's a rather unexpected move, and will lead to a blurring of the lines between what's a "real" AMG vehicle and what isn't. But apparently Mercedes marketing research is telling them that'll mean more profit, not less. It's going to take some time to get used to it.

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Seems similar in performance, speed at least. Agree with other points though.
It is exactly as much an M2 competitor as an S4 is. I suspect only a tiny group of people are eager to compare or cross shop an S4 and M2.
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      02-23-2016, 08:14 PM   #11
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That MSRP has to be wrong though, no way this will cost 66k base.
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      02-23-2016, 08:52 PM   #12
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That MSRP has to be wrong though, no way this will cost 66k base.
I read a few k more than the C450 sedan so about 54/55k base
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      02-23-2016, 09:15 PM   #13
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was hoping to see an original c43amg as those were fun cars
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Edit: I didn't realize that the car in question was the coupe since the OP had included no link. Nevertheless the points remain the same. Just substitute S5 for S4 in my post.

This is nothing more than the existing Mercedes-AMG C450 Sport renamed. That car always had the Audi S4 in its sights and the new name doesn't change that fact.

Mercedes has decided that, rather than to distinguish the proper AMG models from the pseudo AMG models via different model nomenclature (two digit vs. three digit models numbers respectively), they should just use the two digit codes for anything AMG. It's a rather unexpected move, and will lead to a blurring of the lines between what's a "real" AMG vehicle and what isn't. But apparently Mercedes marketing research is telling them that'll mean more profit, not less. It's going to take some time to get used to it.



It is exactly as much an M2 competitor as an S4 is. I suspect only a tiny group of people are eager to compare or cross shop an S4 and M2.
You are completely right about marketing and making more profits.
No more "one man one engine" philosophy that has been around for 40 years.
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/...mg/engine.html
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Mercedes has decided that, rather than to distinguish the proper AMG models from the pseudo AMG models via different model nomenclature (two digit vs. three digit models numbers respectively), they should just use the two digit codes for anything AMG. It's a rather unexpected move, and will lead to a blurring of the lines between what's a "real" AMG vehicle and what isn't. But apparently Mercedes marketing research is telling them that'll mean more profit, not less. It's going to take some time to get used to it.


Because of this, I'm going to need to carry a reference guide with me in order to distinguish AMG models from "AMG sport" models when I see them on the street. It's hard enough given the subtle, if not non-existent body changes between the two lines. Now we need to memorize various model codes and numbers. I can see it now: a thread titled "raced an AMG (or was it?) and won".
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For what its worth, I would consider this car if Renntech does something crazy with it. Right they just have a plug and play for the ecu put like 400/450?
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I read a few k more than the C450 sedan so about 54/55k base
From what I've read the C450 is simply being renamed the C43 (and coming as a coupe), so I wouldn't expect much of a change in price, unless Merc is trying to pull a fast one.
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will still have fake exhaust tips. there's a thread on here about the c450 getting rebranded as a c43. it has a lot of info in it.
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      02-24-2016, 12:06 PM   #19
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Drove it. Surprisingly not horrible. Still not getting one though.
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is it not wide-body as the C63 coupe?
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Is it much lighter? The C63 is a beast but 1750(ish) kgs is way too heavy.
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is it not wide-body as the C63 coupe?
Nope, it's (confusingly) not really an AMG like the E63, just a mid level product.
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