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      05-05-2016, 09:59 PM   #67
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Snowshoe!

If you've never been, it's pretty crazy going from full bars on your cell phone and a million fm channels on the radio to being in a total dead zone in an instant.
not snowshoe...but on the way to snowshoe...greenbank is the town i think.
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Update.....Just got home from the hospital. After I picked up my car from the dealer tonight, and while I was driving home I started feeling sick from the car. I had only been driving for 15 minutes. It started with a headache and quickly progressed to nausea. I pulled over and got out of the car feeling like I was going to puke. While I was standing there I felt something in my ear. I put my hand up any realized my ear was bleeding. I got very nervous and called a friend to pick me up and take me to the hospital. Long story short they said something caused the blood vessels in my ear to rupture. I mentioned the car and the high EMF levels it was producing to the Dr., and he actually said it was the most likely the cause. I was actually in shock to see the Dr agree with my suspicion that it was high levels of EMFs. So to all you non believers, what do I do now?
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Update.....Just got home from the hospital. After I picked up my car from the dealer tonight, and while I was driving home I started feeling sick from the car. I had only been driving for 15 minutes. It started with a headache and quickly progressed to nausea. I pulled over and got out of the car feeling like I was going to puke. While I was standing there I felt something in my ear. I put my hand up any realized my ear was bleeding. I got very nervous and called a friend to pick me up and take me to the hospital. Long story short they said something caused the blood vessels in my ear to rupture. I mentioned the car and the high EMF levels it was producing to the Dr., and he actually said it was the most likely the cause. I was actually in shock to see the Dr agree with my suspicion that it was high levels of EMFs. So to all you non believers, what do I do now?
Go find a good shrink.
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      05-06-2016, 12:47 AM   #70
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Update.....Just got home from the hospital. After I picked up my car from the dealer tonight, and while I was driving home I started feeling sick from the car. I had only been driving for 15 minutes. It started with a headache and quickly progressed to nausea. I pulled over and got out of the car feeling like I was going to puke. While I was standing there I felt something in my ear. I put my hand up any realized my ear was bleeding. I got very nervous and called a friend to pick me up and take me to the hospital. Long story short they said something caused the blood vessels in my ear to rupture. I mentioned the car and the high EMF levels it was producing to the Dr., and he actually said it was the most likely the cause. I was actually in shock to see the Dr agree with my suspicion that it was high levels of EMFs. So to all you non believers, what do I do now?
Your troll was plausible before this post, now it's just stupid and quite obvious you're trolling. Congrats.
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      05-06-2016, 12:48 AM   #71
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There is wireless in every room these days, a cell tower at every street corner, etc. EMF are a product of your imagination.

Offgasing and chemicals are a real problem though, especially in a confined space like a car.
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I'd consider seeing a new/different doctor.
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not snowshoe...but on the way to snowshoe...greenbank is the town i think.
That could be. I always thought there was a rather large area that fell in the dead spot thought, like, more than just one town. For example, you can't get any cell reception in Snowshoe either (could just be cause it's in the middle of nowhere).
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For those that want to have a constructive conversation about known health hazards, please do not waste your time replying to people that most likely do not have a family or just does not give a shit about people in general. People like this only want to distract truth seeking people from learning.
Bring it in and try a loaner for a week? tell wife and daughter that you did measurements and that the reading are super low. It might be the motion of the car, i got sick in a nissan extera, I don't get motion sickness but that suv made me nauseous.

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Your troll was plausible before this post, now it's just stupid and quite obvious you're trolling. Congrats.
This! And to think for a moment I was actually feeling bad for his wife and kid.
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Update.....Just got home from the hospital. After I picked up my car from the dealer tonight, and while I was driving home I started feeling sick from the car. I had only been driving for 15 minutes. It started with a headache and quickly progressed to nausea. I pulled over and got out of the car feeling like I was going to puke. While I was standing there I felt something in my ear. I put my hand up any realized my ear was bleeding. I got very nervous and called a friend to pick me up and take me to the hospital. Long story short they said something caused the blood vessels in my ear to rupture. I mentioned the car and the high EMF levels it was producing to the Dr., and he actually said it was the most likely the cause. I was actually in shock to see the Dr agree with my suspicion that it was high levels of EMFs. So to all you non believers, what do I do now?
Wow that's weird, I just got the same symptoms from reading your trolling posts.
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This is no JOKE!!!!Just woke and barley slept all night. Actually cried myself to sleep wondering what the car was doing to my body. MY EAR WAS BLEADING!!!!!! I'm going to try and see a specialist today to get to the bottom of this. I'm also going to look for an attorney and review what legal action we should pursue . Any referrals would be appreciated. When I picked up the car from the dealer they gave me the classic answer "Everything is operating as it should". I argued with them for a bit but there was nothing more they were going to do. I think I might contact the local news to see if they want to do a story about my situation and the dangers of EMFs. When/if I feel better im going to have the car towed to a different dealer and hopefully they will find out what's causing the high EMF saturation. Until then thank you to those who are supportive and to the rest of you making fun im disheartened that BMW owners can be so cruel.
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A biological mechanism (disease process) by which EHS manifests in humans has been proven by replication in no fewer than 23 studies since 2000, according to Dr. Martin Pall, Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry, WSU.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/

In fact there are at least 2000 published papers that strongly support the toxicity of pulsed information-carrying microwave radiation. According to the Edmond Safra Center for Ethics, Harvard University, ignoring research by bluntly claiming it doesn't exist is unethical.

http://ethics.harvard.edu/files/cent...ncy_alster.pdf

"Idiopathic" EHS and the "nocebo effect" are postulates put forward by the WHO, and are unproven by research. WHO receives major funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation and the US government, both highly invested in wireless tech. Nonetheless, the WHO website contains warnings from Russian scientists against minors using wireless tech under any circumstances but emergencies.

http://www.who.int/peh-emf/project/m...ort%202008.pdf

I might add that, arguably, comments such as "see a shrink" are abusive and defamatory. If you become chronically EHS from over-exposure you stand to lose everything you have, including your BMW, largely due to this uneducated attitude in the general population. Here's a TEDx on EHS:



Hope this helps, thanks for looking.
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bobandy.....thank you for your support. I wish others would take this more seriously. Hopefully they don't experience something similar and when they reach out for help just get laughed at and accused of trolling!
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If you TRULY did; still can't get over the fact that you stuck your daughter in a car to read for 20 mins w/ the windows up lol. Even on a cool 65-70 degree day parked in a garage after about 3 minutes I would start feeling uncomfortable just sitting there let alone reading a book. Stagnant air will make anyone sick tbh.
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So to all you non believers, what do I do now?
I would take a sharp knife and try and dig out of your ear what is causing this problem. In this case, I think it is your brain causing the problem, so try and dig out your brain with the sharp knife. That should solve your problem.

Edit: Bobandy, your sockpuppet is showing.
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A biological mechanism (disease process) by which EHS manifests in humans has been proven by replication in no fewer than 23 studies since 2000, according to Dr. Martin Pall, Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry, WSU.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/

In fact there are at least 2000 published papers that strongly support the toxicity of pulsed information-carrying microwave radiation. According to the Edmond Safra Center for Ethics, Harvard University, ignoring research by bluntly claiming it doesn't exist is unethical.

http://ethics.harvard.edu/files/cent...ncy_alster.pdf

"Idiopathic" EHS and the "nocebo effect" are postulates put forward by the WHO, and are unproven by research. WHO receives major funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation and the US government, both highly invested in wireless tech. Nonetheless, the WHO website contains warnings from Russian scientists against minors using wireless tech under any circumstances but emergencies.

http://www.who.int/peh-emf/project/m...ort%202008.pdf

I might add that, arguably, comments such as "see a shrink" are abusive and defamatory. If you become chronically EHS from over-exposure you stand to lose everything you have, including your BMW, largely due to this uneducated attitude in the general population. Here's a TEDx on EHS:



Hope this helps, thanks for looking.
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bobandy.....thank you for your support. I wish others would take this more seriously. Hopefully they don't experience something similar and when they reach out for help just get laughed at and accused of trolling!
I love how you now are trolling yourself by creating another user name providing all of this "supporting evidence". Bobandy to the rescue with one post, who joined the forum today.

This is truly Epic. You really know what you are doing.
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is this guy for real. lol
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I'm just sorry I read four pages of posts.
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I'm just sorry I read four pages of posts.
I want my 4-5 mins back too.
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A biological mechanism (disease process) by which EHS manifests in humans has been proven by replication in no fewer than 23 studies since 2000, according to Dr. Martin Pall, Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry, WSU.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/

In fact there are at least 2000 published papers that strongly support the toxicity of pulsed information-carrying microwave radiation. According to the Edmond Safra Center for Ethics, Harvard University, ignoring research by bluntly claiming it doesn't exist is unethical.

http://ethics.harvard.edu/files/cent...ncy_alster.pdf

"Idiopathic" EHS and the "nocebo effect" are postulates put forward by the WHO, and are unproven by research. WHO receives major funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation and the US government, both highly invested in wireless tech. Nonetheless, the WHO website contains warnings from Russian scientists against minors using wireless tech under any circumstances but emergencies.

http://www.who.int/peh-emf/project/m...ort%202008.pdf

I might add that, arguably, comments such as "see a shrink" are abusive and defamatory. If you become chronically EHS from over-exposure you stand to lose everything you have, including your BMW, largely due to this uneducated attitude in the general population. Here's a TEDx on EHS:

Hope this helps, thanks for looking.
The articles you quote do not establish any EMF/EHS proof. In fact the first starts out by saying "The direct targets of extremely low and microwave frequency range electromagnetic fields (EMFs) in producing non-thermal effects have not been clearly established."
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I want my 4-5 mins back too.
It's up to 9 pages in the F30 Forum:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=373

Plus another thread in the 5-Series and in the 7-Series forums....
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