Advice on job offer

[zx10guy]

First, I agree with the others....take the job.

Second....about the work from home. I made the transition having to be onsite at a government agency to working at home. I've been working from home for almost 5 years now. I can say it's been great. There are times I would like to have a "regular" job back working onsite. But that's more about things going on with my job and not the work from home aspect. And when I do have to travel (either out of the area or in town) pretty much all of my expenses are paid for by the company...mileage, tolls, parking, etc. That part also provides a hidden pay bump not accounted for in the pay/benefits package. I was surprised that I had a few thousand paid back to me last year.

One of the negatives of working from home is your management. If you have a micro-manager for a boss, you're not going to enjoy working from home too much. Another negative is if you have a spouse that doesn't quite understand working from home doesn't mean you can drop things at a moment's notice and do house things. And lastly, you really need to be on top of work boundaries. What I mean by this is when I first started working from home, I worked actually more hours because I wasn't physically separated from the "office". People got used to requesting things from me after hours or calling me late into the evening. I got a coming to Jesus moment when my now wife had a very pointed conversation with me about setting boundaries. I've since restructured things and have been able to shut down after normal work hours.

[Alfisti]

Jesus women are a pain in the arse.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Jesus women are a pain in the arse.

No kidding, 50/50 she's gone in a couple years anyway. Make that money!

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by P1et

Work from home only two days a week? Why not five? Obviously the tools are in place.

I work in IT, and each company I've worked for we put the tools in place to work remotely. Unfortunately, the corporate culture would not allow us to work from home. Management felt we are not working unless they can "see" us. The remote connectivity tools were mainly used when traveling, or to work additional hours when at home.

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

One of the negatives of working from home is your management. If you have a micro-manager for a boss, you're not going to enjoy working from home too much. Another negative is if you have a spouse that doesn't quite understand working from home doesn't mean you can drop things at a moment's notice and do house things. And lastly, you really need to be on top of work boundaries. What I mean by this is when I first started working from home, I worked actually more hours because I wasn't physically separated from the "office". People got used to requesting things from me after hours or calling me late into the evening. I got a coming to Jesus moment when my now wife had a very pointed conversation with me about setting boundaries. I've since restructured things and have been able to shut down after normal work hours.

My friends who work from home have all run into these issues. I found it quite surprising (and kind of amusing) that their wives didn't understand and/or respect the work boundaries. They really did think their husbands could drop what they are doing with work at any moment to help with the kids and household chores.

[N55]

Take the Job for sure!

[z335is]

I think I'm just going through the "do i want to be the new guy again?" and "will I be able to do the job?" phobias right now. You stay somewhere for 6+ years and get really good at what you are doing, it's tough / scary to think of leaving it behind. But progress is progress I guess, and they are paying me a nice chunk extra to get over those phobias

[z335is]

Oh, and I agree, WFH is a great perk. My current company allows one to two days a week as well. The new company seems to allow it on an as-needed basis, so that was good to find out.

[Kwando]

Don't take the job and quit your current job.

[Myrder]

Originally Posted by P1et

Work from home only two days a week? Why not five? Obviously the tools are in place.

Easily could, but a few reasons I don't. I would go crazy. I would produce less work. I work M-W pretty hard and coast Thurs-Fri. I like to show face in the office and keep my people skills and appearance in top shape. I think going strictly WFH and being under 30 would not aid me right now. Maybe in the future, but I'm a pretty social creature.

[BayMoWe335]

An extra $10k net is shit if the new job blows. That said, if you have no reason to believe the new job will blow or have shitty hours, you'd be dumb not to take it.

[Mr Friese]

Stop being a baby and just take the job. If you get there and you can't do the work and/or you hate it, then you go somewhere else.

[mastereh]

I'm up in Canada and used to be a Systems Analyst (Banking); I worked for RBC for 13 years and at the most was making 65k with 15% bonus; I had 4 weeks vacation and could work from home twice a week.

I left to start my own consulting company and in my first project I earned 120k for the year, 2nd year I brought in 150k and now in my third year I'm looking at nearly 200k.

Sure I don't get paid for vacation anymore but my salary is more than double what I brought it on top of that I get to put tons of expenses through my company [car payments ....]


Not sure what the market is like in the US; but with your experience you may want to consider going into a Consulting type role.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by Kwando

Don't take the job and quit your current job.

This isn't a serious question, I think it's just the OT forum and just shooting the ****.

Neither are earth-shattering salaries, above average for someone starting out.

Why would one ever not take more money and better benefits? I guess if the job were unstable.

For many of us it's not worth 15k to change jobs simply due to the change, they have to make it worth your while. I once took a job for 30k more and regretted it, turns out I lost 1 wk vacation and 7 PTO, AND the healthcare costed more. Suddenly that 30k was only 15k, not worth it.

Other times, we make lateral moves for the opportunity.

[Alfisti]

I think it's poor form to comment on someone's salary. Just sayin'.

[BMWsully]

So let me see if I can sum this up:

+20% increase in pay
+Great 401k match
+Better title
+More responsibility

Most would look at this as a golden opportunity and would not be lamenting the decision. So where is the hang-up?

No job is going to expect you to come in and be 100% efficient right off the bat, so just be diligent, make sure you get up to speed and you should be good to go

[Kwando]

There's more to it than numbers and job descriptions, imo. Current work environment and relationships with co-workers, for example. I'm not sure how many people would rather be 1) well-paid and miserable or 2) poor and happy.

[BMWsully]

Originally Posted by Kwando

There's more to it than numbers and job descriptions, imo. Current work environment and relationships with co-workers, for example. I'm not sure how many people would rather be 1) well-paid and miserable or 2) poor and happy.

Good points...since he mentioned that his company was bought out though, I was kind of dismissing the environment piece.

[z335is]

Originally Posted by Kwando

There's more to it than numbers and job descriptions, imo. Current work environment and relationships with co-workers, for example. I'm not sure how many people would rather be 1) well-paid and miserable or 2) poor and happy.

I do have some good relationships with people there, so I will definitely miss that. But the environment has been pretty depressing ever since the takeover.

That being said, I think I'm going to man up and take the job. Big thanks to everyone for the advice / insight.

[Douche]

Originally Posted by z335is

I do have some good relationships with people there, so I will definitely miss that. But the environment has been pretty depressing ever since the takeover.

That being said, I think I'm going to man up and take the job. Big thanks to everyone for the advice / insight.

Man up and take the job?
With that negative attitude you're not gonna like it.

Let's face it: your comfort zone doesn't exist anymore. Your company has been bought out. Who knows what's going to happen?

Having a new job offer (that pays more even) is something to be excited about.

You know how your attitude affect your behaviour and vice versa? Get a positive attitude, it's great to have a fresh start, in a new environment, that will get you more money and maybe be even better than the current one. Most of it is just up to YOU.

[M3 Number 86]

Follow the money. Comfortable is the worst place to be.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by BMWsully

So let me see if I can sum this up:

+20% increase in pay
+Great 401k match
+Better title
+More responsibility

Most would look at this as a golden opportunity and would not be lamenting the decision. So where is the hang-up?

No job is going to expect you to come in and be 100% efficient right off the bat, so just be diligent, make sure you get up to speed and you should be good to go

20% is not a reason to change, 401k is not either, everybody here should have a BMW because it's a BMW forum, and you should already be contributing $18k to 401k and $5,500 to ROTH up to the phaseout, it's really neither here nor there.

What are reasons to change are title and responsibility. We drive BMWs. It's hardly likely that we are convenience store managers here. You need SVP by age 30-32. Ever ask yourself like it's a talking heads tune why the guy next to you is driving a AMG, and you're only in a 335? You have to want it.