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      05-15-2017, 02:35 AM   #441
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Oh, you mean maybe rationale that we got the 1M coupe as a consolation for no Z4M, a car which saw less than 800 units in NA, and worldwide production equated previous Z4M US delivery. Hah.
And the Z4M was 1,800 units in NA, hardly a high production car.
That's because nobody was buying the Z4M until the day the car went End Of Production. And then it took forever to get rid of them afterwards.

Low number car? Sure sure sure...
Colt classic? Absolutely.
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      05-15-2017, 07:01 AM   #442
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Have you seen the pics? It's not small and compact. I'm guessing it'll be 3,600+ lbs
It is quite small and compact... the Supra barely looks any different in size to the GT86

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      05-15-2017, 09:33 AM   #444
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Are you sure about a rear transaxle?
That would be a first for bmw I think.
Good things happen when BMW and Toyota collaborate.

Front Axle Electric, mid mounted B58, Rear Axle ICE Hybrid combo.

There will be a Z2/GT86 and Z6/LF-A 4some aswell
Z3 & Z7

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      05-15-2017, 09:57 AM   #446
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Back To The Future: Toyota Supra & Bmw Z

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That Toyota and BMW work together on a sporty duo is already known. The cars, which may be called Supra and Z5, are likely to look like this!

BMW and Toyota are currently working together in hybrid technology and diesel engines. That's smart because, while the Japanese are busy with partially electrified driving lines and in the field to be the world's top, BMW's diesel engine is getting more and more fine. Also, when it comes to fuel cell technology, the two companies are looking for each other, but the collapse of cooperation is the duo that can be seen on these pages prematurely.

The name "Supra" says it already: this Toyota is a serious sportieveling. With its rear-wheel drive, long nose, short butt and specially-shaped roof, there's a car in the Toyota showrooms that has to revive the times of earlier Supra's, MR2's and Celics.

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The appearance of the car is inspired by that of the FT-1, a concept car that was presented on Detroit's auto show in 2014. The specially shaped nose and double bubble on the roof return to the production model. With his luscious lineup, the Supra is a real imagomaker for the Japanese. Despite the GT86, the brand with many car enthusiasts still has a somewhat dusty, sensible image. That's the reverse side of the basically amazingly functioning hybrid technology, which gets into hands in each other's hands. With the Supra, Toyota shows that the theme "driving pleasure" has not been forgotten.

Although a hybrid variant is unthinkable, four and six-cylinder petrol engines seem to be a more logical step for the two-seater. If Toyota wants to honor the name 'Supra', it can not be beneath a (double) blown V6. V, indeed, because the Toyota and BMW use their own power sources in the Supra. In the walkways, powers of 192 and 340 horsepower surround, which would at least be heard by the call for appealing performance.

Six-in-line
The fact that engines are not shared is also good news for BMW enthusiasts. They can now enjoy the so-typical six-in-line sound exclusively. In the Z4 sequel, this is especially good, because the new model will be a roadster. Both the Z3 and the first Z4 have coupé versions, but they have always been a lot more rare than their open brother. The current Z4 lacks such a dense variant, because this version is considered unnecessary due to the hard hit roof of this roadster. The Z returns the traditional fabrics.

V shape
Outstanding matches with his Toyota brother are hardly any, only the windshield and exterior mirrors match. The Japanese and Germans also assemble their own dashboard and furniture. The basic shape of both cars, of course, has the necessary similarities: BMW's next Z model also gets the traditional sports car silhouette with a long nose and a short ass. Striking style features of the Z5 are the headlamps, which are in a strong V-shape relative to each other and are positioned very high in the front. Behind that striking front are, of course, not only six-in-line engines, but also the four-cylinder we know of other BMW models. Expect, like we are used to BMW, a whole range of engines, ranging from power 200 to 300 hp. Whether there is an M version in the container is not clear yet. The 'regular' versions, like the Toyota Supra, are likely to be in the showrooms of both brands in 2018. Before that time, however, there will be more and more information about this lovely sporting pair.
http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws/toyota-supra-en-bmw-z5/






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      05-16-2017, 10:13 AM   #447
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The next Z4 is not called Z5

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-z...s-5257988.html



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BMW continues to work on the new roadster. The successor to the Z4 is to become a real athlete and is developed in cooperation with Toyota. Also an M-model could come!

The next roadster from BMW is again hot Z4, which announced the North American head of the brand, Ludwig Willisch. This is the rumors that the sports car Z5 is hot, from the table. The AUTOBILD-Erlkönigjäger have the BMW Z4 already on test drivePhotographed at the polar circle. Unlike the expired Z4, which was rather luxurious, the new is again a real sports car. The model is the Z3 . The ingredients sound promising: low weight, rear wheel drive and possibly up to 431 hp,

First information about the new Toyota Supra
With the new Z4 the first cooperation model of BMW and Toyota will be presented. Toyota is primarily responsible for the electronics and for the hybrid drive. While the Toyota Supra is to be launched as a coupé, BMW relies on the classic soft top for its roadster.

Z4 M with M4 engine?
On the engines BMW is using its own units. The 340 HP strong six-cylinder from the M240i could be used as provisional top-engine. Possibly the axes of the roadster come from the sports model M3 . Whether the internal G29 Z4 will also come as a genuine M model, is not yet certain. A possible BMW Z4 M could be fired by the 431 hp engine from the M3 / M4 . It is expected to be presented in 2017 before rolling to retailers in 2018. The price list of the Z4 will start at around 35,000 euros.

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Please let it look better than that
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That doesn't look any better than the current Z4, and I still vastly prefer the E85/86 to the current gen. Ugh, what is going on!!
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It is quite small and compact... the Supra barely looks any different in size to the GT86

I tried to trace the body lines as best as possible, and my perception is something with these lines. Versus the concept renderings above. An evolution of the Z4 versus a revolution. Classy, but probably won't wow anyone.

The lower bumper is well hidden but looks to have some interesting curves. The grill is well guarded by a "bump" and the true lines cannot be seen. But given the headlight outline versus where the kidneys are, its hard to tell but I don't think they we be so large as in the renderings. That would make for a positively huge (and imho) ugly kidney.

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I don't think you can tell much by drawing over it as they paste a lot of fake body work on those to hide things.
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That doesn't look any better than the current Z4, and I still vastly prefer the E85/86 to the current gen. Ugh, what is going on!!
I agree, I like the looks of my E85 a lot more then this concept
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In the comparison the roadster has less overhang than the coupe.

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Is it also going to be numb and boring to drive like the car it replaces?

Or will they recapture the spirit of the Z3 and first gen Z4?

I suspect the former. Then BMW will again complain "why don't people buy sports cars anymore!" Well you don't make a "sports car" so don't be surprised.
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Well its gonna have a fabric roof, thats a good start

Now if only they can keep the weight down under 1300kg
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Update: May 23, 2017

We now have the best look ever at the G29 Z4 interior, showing manual transmission (yay!), large screen and slick all digital gauges. This model happens to reveal its model and power output. It's an s20i powered by the B48 engine, outputting 195hp / 236 lb-ft.

BMW Z4 s20i spied at Nurburgring


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When is this car getting announced?
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