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      03-01-2016, 01:38 PM   #1
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H&R Springs

I'm looking to lower my X1 and I've seen people have great success with these springs.
I have a 2012 BMW X1 28i but the tuner motorsport says they are 2013+
Shouldn't they still fit?
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      03-01-2016, 02:13 PM   #2
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Yup. You really, really want to upgrade struts/shocks while you're at it. Stock units can't quite keep up.
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Yup. You really, really want to upgrade struts/shocks while you're at it. Stock units can't quite keep up.
Ive seen a few X1s without those upgrades on the forum. Unless they just didn't mention it
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Ive seen a few X1s without those upgrades on the forum. Unless they just didn't mention it
Sure there are. I'm one of them. Myself, and others, put the springs on first, only to find out the car bottoms out over larger bumps, especially at high speed...and generally speaking is underdamped.

If you live on very smooth roads and/or you drive relatively slowly/don't notice the fact that the dampening is clearly not match for the spring rate...stock struts/shocks with these may be OK for you long term.

Just giving you a warning. Not an acceptable setup for many people. Even wifey found it horrid.
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Just giving you a warning. Not an acceptable setup for many people. Even wifey found it horrid.
I think I am the only one who use Bilstein B12 kit which comes with Bilstein shocks and Elbach springs; Eilbach should be slight softer than H&R. Wifey didn't complain the suspension but hate my new Hawks brake pads squeezeeeeeeeeeeeeee like a bus!

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...lar=Sport+Line
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I agree with the bottoming out. It helped the handling a great deal.

Getting rid of the RFT's did a lot for making he ride better for me.
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      03-01-2016, 07:48 PM   #7
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Is swapping out the springs hard? I have never done something like this and want to do it on my own
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Maybe an hour for the rear...nothing other than a jack and hand tools required.

Fronts, depends on your experience. You'll need a set of spring compressors to get the assemblies out and the top hats swapped.

Helps a ton to have an impact gun...but a towel, vice grips and hand tools can work in a pinch.

First time? Plan on all day and probably a 1/2 case of beer. But a doable project.

But seriously, save for a set of Bilstein HDs and do it all at once. Well, well worth it. If you plan on keeping the car, the stock dampeners aren't going to last anyway. Might as well replace them at the same time with suitable hardware.
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Maybe an hour for the rear...nothing other than a jack and hand tools required.

Fronts, depends on your experience. You'll need a set of spring compressors to get the assemblies out and the top hats swapped.

Helps a ton to have an impact gun...but a towel, vice grips and hand tools can work in a pinch.

First time? Plan on all day and probably a 1/2 case of beer. But a doable project.

But seriously, save for a set of Bilstein HDs and do it all at once. Well, well worth it. If you plan on keeping the car, the stock dampeners aren't going to last anyway. Might as well replace them at the same time with suitable hardware.
I'll make the finally decision this summer when I actually purchase them. No point in doing it now, Canadian weather sucks lol.

If I just went for the springs, do I reuse everything and just swap the springs?
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I'll make the finally decision this summer when I actually purchase them. No point in doing it now, Canadian weather sucks lol.

If I just went for the springs, do I reuse everything and just swap the springs?
Yup.
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Yup.
last question haha, Im putting on some 20" rims soon 9" in the front and 10" in the back, if I lower the car will I run into any rubbing?
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Wait what?!
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I'm just kidding around.

Just not my thing. 20" wheels on a 4 cylinder X1? In Canada? 9" up front and 10" in the rear? What are you doing with that much tire on a little X1?

And you're spending money on ridiculous sized wheels, and not bothering to install suitable struts/shocks to go with your lowering springs? Presumably that's because of the added cost?

Anyway, to each their own...but I can't get my head around priorities/desires like that.

Then again, I'm getting pretty old.

I'm sure it will look good. Ride on the other hand...yikes.
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I'm just kidding around.

Just not my thing. 20" wheels on a 4 cylinder X1? In Canada? 9" up front and 10" in the rear? What are you doing with that much tire on a little X1?

And you're spending money on ridiculous sized wheels, and not bothering to install suitable struts/shocks to go with your lowering springs? Presumably that's because of the added cost?

Anyway, to each their own...but I can't get my head around priorities/desires like that.

Then again, I'm getting pretty old.

I'm sure it will look good. Ride on the other hand...yikes.
I just like the look of 20" rims on the X1, I have seen a few on the forums.
I could always upgrade the struts/shocks in the future correct?
I just place an order on my springs
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Show us some pictures when you get those installed
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I'm just kidding around.

Just not my thing. 20" wheels on a 4 cylinder X1? In Canada? 9" up front and 10" in the rear? What are you doing with that much tire on a little X1?

And you're spending money on ridiculous sized wheels, and not bothering to install suitable struts/shocks to go with your lowering springs? Presumably that's because of the added cost?

Anyway, to each their own...but I can't get my head around priorities/desires like that.

Then again, I'm getting pretty old.

I'm sure it will look good. Ride on the other hand...yikes.
I just like the look of 20" rims on the X1, I have seen a few on the forums.
I could always upgrade the struts/shocks in the future correct?
I just place an order on my springs
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Show us some pictures when you get those installed
I will for sure! they probably will come in next week so thats when ill do it.
I have my winter rims on right now so it won't look as good. Ill definitely post pictures with my new rims and tires once the weather changes.
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Seriously, listen to the advice given, do the Bilstein shocks at the same time. You will regret it and end up doing it anyway, causing either twice the work or twice the cost, depending if you do it yourself or pay someone to do it....
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Seriously, listen to the advice given, do the Bilstein shocks at the same time. You will regret it and end up doing it anyway, causing either twice the work or twice the cost, depending if you do it yourself or pay someone to do it....
Ill be doing it myself. So whats the big difference between those and stock?
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Ill be doing it myself. So whats the big difference between those and stock?
For more in depth info check out this thread: http://e84.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160317
There is some clutter in the thread, but overall you can see where PrematureApex, myself, and others compared notes to finally come to a great solution for the X1.

As Apex mentioned above, doing just the springs will cause the car to be underdamped, making it bouncy and allowing it to easily bottom out over bumps at highway speed, so much so I was worried about my head hitting the sunroof. When I did the H&R springs first on my car the Bilsteins were not available yet. The first two weeks everything seemed fine, then things started getting worse and worse as things settled in. It was so bad that if the Bilsteins hadn't fixed the problem I was going to probably trade the car in as it was not right.

Putting on the Bilstein B6 shocks with shortened bumpstops in the front and rear (as described in the linked thread) gave my car the handling & ride that BMW should feel like: firm, crisp, not too hard in the ride. Additionally with the lowering characteristics of the H&R springs it brought the ride height to normal levels shedding that crossover look.
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For more in depth info check out this thread: http://e84.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160317
There is some clutter in the thread, but overall you can see where PrematureApex, myself, and others compared notes to finally come to a great solution for the X1.

As Apex mentioned above, doing just the springs will cause the car to be underdamped, making it bouncy and allowing it to easily bottom out over bumps at highway speed, so much so I was worried about my head hitting the sunroof. When I did the H&R springs first on my car the Bilsteins were not available yet. The first two weeks everything seemed fine, then things started getting worse and worse as things settled in. It was so bad that if the Bilsteins hadn't fixed the problem I was going to probably trade the car in as it was not right.

Putting on the Bilstein B6 shocks with shortened bumpstops in the front and rear (as described in the linked thread) gave my car the handling & ride that BMW should feel like: firm, crisp, not too hard in the ride. Additionally with the lowering characteristics of the H&R springs it brought the ride height to normal levels shedding that crossover look.
Right now I don't have the money for it, but when I do I'll go ahead and order them.

Until then what do you suggest I do? Someone said something about trimmed bump stops?
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