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12 Handicap · 02-13-2018, 08:24 AM

So I noticed a hose hanging from the rear of the vehicle, get under it and it goes to the "mechanical valve" near the muffler. Was told the muffler has to be changed, not covered under CPO and an un godly amount of money to change it. I am so over this car and the BS that goes with it. This is my first and last BMW.

kiloTHREE · 02-13-2018, 08:41 AM

No, plug it, tuck it away, and forget about it.
Google "golf ball tee mod" for further reading.

KWX1 · 02-13-2018, 09:08 AM

It is just a vacuum line that controls your exhaust flapper valve. You can splice it or plug it back in. Pull out the plastic tray on the left rear in the cargo area and you will see the control and the vacuum lines (line if it pulled lose). Hoses do not get pulled out by them selves. Don't blame the car.

LevinBR · 02-13-2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 Handicap

So I noticed a hose hanging from the rear of the vehicle, get under it and it goes to the "mechanical valve" near the muffler. Was told the muffler has to be changed, not covered under CPO and an un godly amount of money to change it. I am so over this car and the BS that goes with it. This is my first and last BMW.

A previous owner performed the "golf tee" mod. It's despicable that the dealer wants to charge you for a muffler replacement. They should have noticed it before they sold the car to you. Anyway, no need to do anything. It makes the exhaust note a bit louder and if you don't like it you can plug the hose back in. Simple as that.

PrematureApex · 02-13-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 Handicap

So I noticed a hose hanging from the rear of the vehicle, get under it and it goes to the "mechanical valve" near the muffler. Was told the muffler has to be changed, not covered under CPO and an un godly amount of money to change it. I am so over this car and the BS that goes with it. This is my first and last BMW.

Yeah, that's just a dealer trying to steal money from you. Nothing wrong with your car.

You can either plug the line back in, or better yet, just zip-tie it off and forget about it.

Please for the love of god tell us you didn't authorize that "repair"????

PrematureApex · 02-13-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LevinBR

A previous owner performed the "golf tee" mod. It's despicable that the dealer wants to charge you for a muffler replacement. They should have noticed it before they sold the car to you. Anyway, no need to do anything. It makes the exhaust note a bit louder and if you don't like it you can plug the hose back in. Simple as that.

That dealer should be fined, or at least reported to BMW NA. Ridiculous.

kiloTHREE · 02-13-2018, 11:04 AM

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That dealer should be fined, or at least reported to BMW NA. Ridiculous.

Playing devil's advocate here. We don't really know the condition of the exhaust. Maybe unknown the OP, something is physically damaged by road debris. They sure as hell arn't going to repair an exhaust, bolt on new.

PrematureApex · 02-13-2018, 11:09 AM

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Playing devil's advocate here. We don't really know the condition of the exhaust. Maybe unknown the OP, something is physically damaged by road debris. They sure as hell arn't going to repair an exhaust, bolt on new.

That's fine...anything is possible. But one can only go on the info provided in order to have anything even resembling a productive conversation.

The guy mentioned nothing at all about any road damage to the exhaust, only the hose and the mechanical valve. You just pulled that out of thin air.

And if road damage is present, and unknown to the OP, that's another huge problem.

Maybe the dealership found a family of squirrels living in the muffler, and do to local environmental regulations, isn't allowed to touch the nest. So they have to relocate it.

PrematureApex · 02-13-2018, 11:12 AM

Should we tell the OP you can buy the muffler on ebay for $150?

kiloTHREE · 02-13-2018, 11:21 AM

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Maybe the dealership found a family of squirrels living in the muffler, and do to local environmental regulations, isn't allowed to touch the nest. So they have to relocate it.

Found a bald eagle nest.

12 Handicap · 02-13-2018, 07:19 PM

OK so nothing was run over but something snagged it off because the nipple it plugs into is broken off inside the hose.I took it in for a car wash and noticed it after. Also at one "car wash" I was missing a rear reflector off the bumper.They wanted me to pay for it too so I asked them to check the car wash and low and behold there was one crushed in the washer.They replaced it for N/C.P.S. this was the dealers car wash.

Turbod · 02-13-2018, 07:28 PM

Well I am glad you didn't go buy a new muffler. Sounds to me like you need to find the next closest dealer and work with them. Unless you want a completely quiet car I wouldn't repair the vacuum line and just allow the exhaust to be slightly louder. Not sure how that sounds on the N20 though.

12 Handicap · 02-14-2018, 08:28 AM

It sounds little deeper.I can't believe the valve assy. is not a replaceable part.To the tune of $1,xxx plus from the stealer to replace it. Probably gunna get my hand slapped for the price.

PrematureApex · 02-14-2018, 09:07 AM

Involuntary golf-tee mod.

Just fold the line over on itself and zip-tie. Forget it's even there.

d1saster · 02-14-2018, 02:23 PM

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I can't believe the valve assy. is not a replaceable part.

It’s welded to the out pipe.

12 Handicap · 02-14-2018, 05:57 PM

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It’s welded to the out pipe.

Isn't it a "plastic assy." ? I believe it is, can't be welded to the pipe. This is wrong to just keep your hand out all the time.

PrematureApex · 02-14-2018, 07:17 PM

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Isn't it a "plastic assy." ? I believe it is, can't be welded to the pipe. This is wrong to just keep your hand out all the time.

It is, and sad as it may seem, it can't be ordered independently.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=18_0930

Fortunately, it is a completely useless plastic assembly, that doesn't need to be there in the first place, and no one would ever know was missing/disconnected.

Regarding keeping your "hand out" all the time. What I tell everyone...if you're not willing to take the time to learn/fix things yourself/ignore things as warranted...don't buy German.

12 Handicap · 02-16-2018, 07:51 PM

Regarding keeping your "hand out" all the time. What I tell everyone...if you're not willing to take the time to learn/fix things yourself/ignore things as warranted...don't buy German.[/QUOTE]

I am fairly handy,HVAC tech for 38 years and came from a family of engineers.This is the first car brand that always has their hand out and yes they are over priced. Yes this will be my last German vehicle, getting to the point in my life where I don't want to work on cars any more. It shouldn't have to be this way, lesson learned.

kiloTHREE · 02-16-2018, 09:32 PM

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HVAC tech for 38 years and came from a family of engineers.

and someone who who graduated med school with. 2.3 vs a 4.0 is still a doctor. I hate when the dick swinging comes out, it's the internet no one gives a shit, move on.

12 Handicap · 02-17-2018, 07:03 AM

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and someone who who graduated med school with. 2.3 vs a 4.0 is still a doctor. I hate when the dick swinging comes out, it's the internet no one gives a shit, move on.

Who peed in your wheaties ? Sarcastic dick.

PrematureApex · 02-17-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 Handicap

Regarding keeping your "hand out" all the time. What I tell everyone...if you're not willing to take the time to learn/fix things yourself/ignore things as warranted...don't buy German.

I am fairly handy,HVAC tech for 38 years and came from a family of engineers.This is the first car brand that always has their hand out and yes they are over priced. Yes this will be my last German vehicle, getting to the point in my life where I don't want to work on cars any more. It shouldn't have to be this way, lesson learned.[/quote]

PrematureApex · 02-17-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 Handicap

Regarding keeping your "hand out" all the time. What I tell everyone...if you're not willing to take the time to learn/fix things yourself/ignore things as warranted...don't buy German.

I am fairly handy,HVAC tech for 38 years and came from a family of engineers.This is the first car brand that always has their hand out and yes they are over priced. Yes this will be my last German vehicle, getting to the point in my life where I don't want to work on cars any more. It shouldn't have to be this way, lesson learned.

Shouldn't have to be what way?

I thought it got ripped off in a car wash or by some other freak thing? What does that have to do with it being German?

Your insurance will cover the repair under comprehensive coverage; this was road damage.

Anyway, while the poster above you was a douche for who knows what reason, you're certainly making a mountain over a molehill here.

No reason to be so dramatic over literally nothing...your options for dealing with the freak accident like an adult are:

1. File an insurance claim...which apparently you didn't even think to do?
2. Ignore it, as it's a complete non-issue.
3. Buy a $150 used muffler on ebay.

And you're wrong if you think other cars don't package components into sub-assemblies that can't be purchased individually. That's a sign of the times and not a German vs. whomever deal.

02-13-2018, 08:24 AM	#1
12 Handicap Private 12 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2013 X1 S28 I Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Central Floriduh iTrader: (0)	WTF So I noticed a hose hanging from the rear of the vehicle, get under it and it goes to the "mechanical valve" near the muffler. Was told the muffler has to be changed, not covered under CPO and an un godly amount of money to change it. I am so over this car and the BS that goes with it. This is my first and last BMW.
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02-13-2018, 08:41 AM	#2
kiloTHREE Lieutenant 76 Rep 435 Posts Drives: '13 xDrive28i Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: MN iTrader: (0)	No, plug it, tuck it away, and forget about it. Google "golf ball tee mod" for further reading.
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KWX1 Captain 25 Rep 80 Posts Drives: X1 Xdrive35i Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Key West iTrader: (0)	It is just a vacuum line that controls your exhaust flapper valve. You can splice it or plug it back in. Pull out the plastic tray on the left rear in the cargo area and you will see the control and the vacuum lines (line if it pulled lose). Hoses do not get pulled out by them selves. Don't blame the car. __________________ 2014 X1 Xdrive35i /BMS intake/JB4/ GFB DV/CPE charge pipe/ VRSF downpipe/ Alpina TCU flash
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12 Handicap Private 12 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2013 X1 S28 I Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Central Floriduh iTrader: (0)	OK so nothing was run over but something snagged it off because the nipple it plugs into is broken off inside the hose.I took it in for a car wash and noticed it after. Also at one "car wash" I was missing a rear reflector off the bumper.They wanted me to pay for it too so I asked them to check the car wash and low and behold there was one crushed in the washer.They replaced it for N/C.P.S. this was the dealers car wash.
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Turbod Major 396 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2014 E84 X1 35i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Well I am glad you didn't go buy a new muffler. Sounds to me like you need to find the next closest dealer and work with them. Unless you want a completely quiet car I wouldn't repair the vacuum line and just allow the exhaust to be slightly louder. Not sure how that sounds on the N20 though. __________________ 2011 E92 335i \| 11.7@125 SOLD 2017 Camaro SS \| 12.7@114 SOLD 2019 Audi TT RS \| 10.5@130 SOLD 2020 F97 X3M \| 11.0@123 2023 G80 M3 xDrive
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02-14-2018, 08:28 AM	#13
12 Handicap Private 12 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2013 X1 S28 I Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Central Floriduh iTrader: (0)	It sounds little deeper.I can't believe the valve assy. is not a replaceable part.To the tune of $1,xxx plus from the stealer to replace it. Probably gunna get my hand slapped for the price.
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PrematureApex Colonel 840 Rep 2,402 Posts Drives: N55 X1, N54 135, s54 m3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Involuntary golf-tee mod. Just fold the line over on itself and zip-tie. Forget it's even there. __________________ '02 S54 M3 (500/500 GC/Koni) '08 N54 135 (JB4, DCI, BMW PS/Bilstein B6s, H&R M3 FSB, Strongflex FCABs) '14 N55 X1 (JB4, BMS DP, BMS Intake, Alpina TCU reflash, H&R Sports, Bilstein B6s, E93 M3 RSB, Strongflex FCABs, baby seat) '08 N54 535xi touring (Bilstein B6s, Downpipes, MHD tune, baby seat)
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12 Handicap Private 12 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2013 X1 S28 I Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Central Floriduh iTrader: (0)	Regarding keeping your "hand out" all the time. What I tell everyone...if you're not willing to take the time to learn/fix things yourself/ignore things as warranted...don't buy German.[/QUOTE] I am fairly handy,HVAC tech for 38 years and came from a family of engineers.This is the first car brand that always has their hand out and yes they are over priced. Yes this will be my last German vehicle, getting to the point in my life where I don't want to work on cars any more. It shouldn't have to be this way, lesson learned.
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