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      09-23-2016, 09:38 PM   #23
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I've been thinking about making the switch myself. The big question is dsg or manual?
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      09-24-2016, 08:36 AM   #24
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I've been thinking about making the switch myself. The big question is dsg or manual?
Can't go wrong either way. The manual is a little more fun, and the shifter/clutch combo is great for the street.

DSG is quicker and feels like the car was designed around it.
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      09-24-2016, 02:57 PM   #25
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Haldex AWD system
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If those don't bother u, then go for it... at a 40K price range for a hot hatch, they bother me extremely.
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      09-25-2016, 01:54 AM   #26
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$40k is a little insane for a VW Golf
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      09-25-2016, 09:44 AM   #27
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Theyre not asking 40k for it, theyre looking for mid 20s so the price is reasonable. The car had been modded before but to some degree has been returned to stock. Itll have a 4yr 100000 mile warranty on it still however.

I am also considering the WRX, theres also a Audi TTS not far away for the same price but is a few years older and no 3rd pedal and then maybe a newer style Mustang GT.

The Golf is really appealing to me because it is somewhat a sleeper out of the group.

Also, I have 0 familiarity with Haldex AWD, is there anything I should be concerned about?
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      09-26-2016, 09:10 AM   #28
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I'll say it once... I'll say it twice-

Haldex AWD system
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If those don't bother u, then go for it... at a 40K price range for a hot hatch, they bother me extremely.
The GEN IV and V Haldex systems are pretty badass. I had plenty of fun beating up on 6 cyl. Turbo BMW's in my A3. The Golf R is worth the 40K. It's interior and amenities are more than just a notch above the direct competition.

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Theyre not asking 40k for it, theyre looking for mid 20s so the price is reasonable. The car had been modded before but to some degree has been returned to stock. Itll have a 4yr 100000 mile warranty on it still however.

I am also considering the WRX, theres also a Audi TTS not far away for the same price but is a few years older and no 3rd pedal and then maybe a newer style Mustang GT.

The Golf is really appealing to me because it is somewhat a sleeper out of the group.

Also, I have 0 familiarity with Haldex AWD, is there anything I should be concerned about?
Nothing to worry about. The GEN IV Haldex in the Golf r/S3/TT-S is fucking awesome. I owned both Torsen and Haldex Audi Quattros. Didn't notice much of a different at all driven all the way to the limits. For performance driving, I actually found the Haldex to be better.
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      09-26-2016, 11:03 AM   #29
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Haldex AWD system
4 banger

If those don't bother u, then go for it... at a 40K price range for a hot hatch, they bother me extremely.
Have you priced a 330i lately? Last I looked it was a 4 banger and the way I would "build it myself" it was $51K.
That was for the RWD because I wanted a manual.
The 330 x-drive with the "high tech" AWD system is only available in automatic and costs $53k!

Sorry, but even at $40K the Golf R is a bargain.
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      09-26-2016, 11:25 AM   #30
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Have you priced a 330i lately? Last I looked it was a 4 banger and the way I would "build it myself" it was $51K.
That was for the RWD because I wanted a manual.
The 330 x-drive with the "high tech" AWD system is only available in automatic and costs $53k!

Sorry, but even at $40K the Golf R is a bargain.
Lol, buying a 330i for that price is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot... it will be worth 30k at trade in a year later... These are cars you buy used as they have become too disposable and too attainable new to have any sort of real value... Yes they are both massively overpriced cars.
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      09-26-2016, 11:40 AM   #31
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Lol, buying a 330i for that price is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot... it will be worth 30k at trade in a year later... These are cars you buy used as they have become too disposable and too attainable new to have any sort of real value... Yes they are both massively overpriced cars.
Yeah, it really stinks that BMW has left the enthusiasts out in the cold.

If they only made a 4-door M2!
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      09-26-2016, 02:49 PM   #32
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Can't go wrong either way. The manual is a little more fun, and the shifter/clutch combo is great for the street.

DSG is quicker and feels like the car was designed around it.
Maybe it's because it's my first automatic car, but I absolutely detest the DSG in my CC R-line. I've learned to cope with it but there is simply no substitute for a manual transmission. I got mine because I was commuting to midtown Manhattan quite often but that changed last year and now I'm stuck riding out another year on the lease with this miserable DSG. My car is also APR tuned with the Carbonio intake.
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      09-26-2016, 02:52 PM   #33
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Maybe it's because it's my first automatic car, but I absolutely detest the DSG in my CC R-line. I've learned to cope with it but there is simply no substitute for a manual transmission. I got mine because I was commuting to midtown Manhattan quite often but that changed last year and now I'm stuck riding out another year on the lease with this miserable DSG. My car is also APR tuned with the Carbonio intake.
Meh, I like the DSG in my GTI. Stick is a little more fun, but then when I'm caught in traffic or really tearing up a back road, I'm happy with my choice.
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      09-26-2016, 03:45 PM   #34
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Every time I shift my car manually on my ride home, it stinks of clutch when I park in my garage. Not beating on the car in any way.
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      09-26-2016, 05:15 PM   #35
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Every time I shift my car manually on my ride home, it stinks of clutch when I park in my garage. Not beating on the car in any way.
Odd. Mine never does, even after hard driving. Sometimes very hard driving.
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      09-26-2016, 06:41 PM   #36
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Very odd. I had no issues with DSG + awd at 500 hp (maybe 400 lbft of tq) with 100's of laps on road courses until I took it to the 1/4 mile. Even then it went 10.9 going into limp around half track.

That said, I still prefer manual but if you think a vag dsg is bad with tq capacity and clutches wait until you try it with a 6mt. They won't hold the stock tq for much more than 80k and tuned they're much worse.
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      09-27-2016, 01:18 PM   #37
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Welp, went to try and work a deal. They wouldnt budge from the price of their car at all nor were they willing to give me a fair trade on mine. 4k on trade, feck no! On to the next one!
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both great cars, but it depends on if you really want AWD or RWD. If you want to deal with the extra moving parts i would say go for it. Otherwise, just stick with BMW and get something non-turbo
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Welp, went to try and work a deal. They wouldnt budge from the price of their car at all nor were they willing to give me a fair trade on mine. 4k on trade, feck no! On to the next one!
It's supply and demand. They won't discount the car because they don't need to.
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      09-27-2016, 03:16 PM   #40
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Welp, went to try and work a deal. They wouldnt budge from the price of their car at all nor were they willing to give me a fair trade on mine. 4k on trade, feck no! On to the next one!
Go to another dealer or ask on a VW forum who to go to. Dealers vary a lot, even in a small area.

When I bought my GTI in 2015 the dealership I bought my car from was $1,700 cheaper than the next lowest price. This is on a $28K MSRP car.
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I got over $8,000 knocked off my CC R-line as well ($36k MSRP) but dealers are not inclined to discount the R in any way. You could probably find a dealer willing to give you a few hundred off but nothing that would move the needle very much. Dealers are flooded with dozens of GTIs while they only get a handful of Golf Rs in a year.
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Earlier this year when the lease was finishing up on my 2013 135is, I was looking hard at a Golf R. I also had an old Grand Cherokee I drove in the winter and I was looking to sell that, turn in the 135is, and go back down to 1 year-round car. The dealbreaker on the Golf R for me was no sunroof. For whatever reason you can get a sunroof on a Golf and a GTI but not the R. Otherwise it's a nice car.
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Earlier this year when the lease was finishing up on my 2013 135is, I was looking hard at a Golf R. I also had an old Grand Cherokee I drove in the winter and I was looking to sell that, turn in the 135is, and go back down to 1 year-round car. The dealbreaker on the Golf R for me was no sunroof. For whatever reason you can get a sunroof on a Golf and a GTI but not the R. Otherwise it's a nice car.
I don't have a sunroof on my CC either. I thought I would hate it but I don't even think about it anymore.
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Too bad the golf R is ugly. And I can't picture anyone 21+ years old driving it.. it just looks like a kid's car to me
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