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      12-11-2021, 01:44 PM   #331
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Based on the data, acceleration in the straights was much closer today than it has been over the last 6 races. Maybe Merc started the refurbishment process post Silverstone and RBR finally got wise to it and replicated it for their PUs.
I understood that HAM's and BOT's PU's previously have been replaced by 'brand new Mercedes PU's.
MAX's HONDA PU Isn't new , MAX got a 'refurbished HONDA PU from his spec. 3 or 4 old engine , and that's why MAX didn't got a 5 P grid penalty like HAM got in Brazil with his Rocket PU ...
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Sucks sports more often creates a divide rather than bringing people together. I think it's a hatred for the fans have for each other more than the athlete/team. I hope it's a good race decided on skill, but it looks like it's going to be a cold calculated race bc of the tire situation.

As a Max fan yourself, how do you expect (not hope) the race to play out. What do you think needs to happen for Max to overcome the tire scenario?

Regardless of the outcome its great we get to watch the season until the last day with excitement. Even though I'm not a Max fan, it will be cool to see his fanbase celebrating which will make next season even better.
We want to see a fair race 'Not a Silverstone 2 with HAM's dirty tricks .

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      12-11-2021, 01:53 PM   #333
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Horner has warned Ham that he will not have it easy on Sunday.
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Just watched quali, max on pole Lewis p2, Lando p3 (strange sighting) and this time Bottas ko where to be seen. Good stuff.


If I'm not mistaken RB starts on softs which might not be a good idea. But looking forward to watching the race when I get up after a long night of mma and boxing lol.
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I have a sick feeling that ruining those mediums will come back to haunt him. I just don't see Max holding him off. So what tire will he have to go onto? The hards since that was his only medium set? That'll definitely ruin his chances if thats the case no?
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Max found out by a mistake on the mediums that he was perfect on the softs on the long runs.
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Max hasn't any new mediums I think so if he goes well on the softs for a distance then as the car gets lighter he may not opt for using the used mediums.
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Check this out my friend !!!
You "REALLY" should read this , in Dutch => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...r-in-abu-dhabi

In short :
HONDA Japan and Red Bull Powertrains have for this last race of the season refurbished MAX's HONDA PU .
Currently It's still unclear if it is MAX's spec. 3 or 4 HONDA PU , but everything went according the FIA regulations .

Interesting fact is that HAM and MAX ran today during the QF's with the PU's at 120 % !
It's very clear that MAX's refurbished HONDA PU is the antidote for HAM's ROCKETSHIP !
On the other hand : MAX was forced to run with softs and a tow to beat HAM , that's how fast HAM's Rocketship really is !
This is complete and utter rubbish. The engines are sealed between races. ANY parts changed within the engine would mean a penalty the same as a new engine. This is why the PU at Silverstone was scrapped.

Regs could have suddenly changed but blanking plates are placed over the exhaust outlets that allow for only minor inspection.
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Used mediums may be used instead as the hards are not great on the RB,it may just be ideal but for some reason this track with the softs seemed kinder to the RB according to data and from what Max said.
How? The only set he has are the ones with the flat spot which he says were pretty significant. Not saying VER couldn't run back on those but that's a huge gamble and risking a potential blowout even if its at the end of the race with less fuel load.

This is going to be a one-stopper and maybe RB might have to get off the softs a bit earlier to switch to the hard compound with enough laps to get the heat into them. For Mercedes will switch to the soft, just a matter of when and how much of a lead VER will have at that time.
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How? The only set he has are the ones with the flat spot which he says were pretty significant. Not saying VER couldn't run back on those but that's a huge gamble and risking a potential blowout even if its at the end of the race with less fuel load.

This is going to be a one-stopper and maybe RB might have to get off the softs a bit earlier to switch to the hard compound with enough laps to get the heat into them. For Mercedes will switch to the soft, just a matter of when and how much of a lead VER will have at that time.
That's the million dollar question depending on how the race opens out.
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This is complete and utter rubbish. The engines are sealed between races. ANY parts changed within the engine would mean a penalty the same as a new engine. This is why the PU at Silverstone was scrapped.

Regs could have suddenly changed but blanking plates are placed over the exhaust outlets that allow for only minor inspection.
We'll see . Hopefully in the coming hours more information will come regarding the situation .
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I have a sick feeling that ruining those mediums will come back to haunt him. I just don't see Max holding him off. So what tire will he have to go onto? The hards since that was his only medium set? That'll definitely ruin his chances if thats the case no?
It's a bold choice by Red Bull, because Hamilton is ace in catching up. If no mishap happens, Hamilton is gonna give Verstappen a run for his money.

Hamilton in a video interview after the qualifications today (see here): "Interesting that they're, like, lock up in Turn 1 and all that kind of stuff. In my experience no-one locks up in Turn 1. So, and if he does, it's no big lock-up anyways. And so, yeah they obviously deliberately choose to go on the soft, in my opinion. I might be wrong, but I hope what we are on is the right one."

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It's a bold choice by Red Bull, because Hamilton is ace in catching up. If no mishap happens, Hamilton is gonna give Verstappen a run for his money.

Hamilton in a video interview after the qualifications today (see here): "Interesting that they're, like, lock up in Turn 1 and all that kind of stuff. In my experience no-one locks up in Turn 1. So, and if he does, it's no big lock-up anyways. And so, yeah they obviously deliberately choose to go on the soft, in my opinion. I might be wrong, but I hope what we are on is the right one."

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RB has really good long run pace on the softs as shown in FP2. But it is a bold gamble on full fuel, and used softs that already have some laps on them. What makes it sketchier is if they get hot and induce understeer or oversteer and Max hits those sketchy curbs. That would not be good because that might actually be a tire blow out.

IDK I guess we will see soon, by that I mean you guys will see it first then I will watch the recording in the morning because I will be up all night watching Loma box, and some good ol mma (Dustin, Charles, Amanda, O'malley, garbrandt etc) all night long lol.
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RB has really good long run pace on the softs as shown in FP2. But it is a bold gamble on full fuel, and used softs that already have some laps on them. What makes it sketchier is if they get hot and induce understeer or oversteer and Max hits those sketchy curbs. That would not be good because that might actually be a tire blow out.

IDK I guess we will see soon, by that I mean you guys will see it first then I will watch the recording in the morning because I will be up all night watching Loma box, and some good ol mma (Dustin, Charles, Amanda, O'malley, garbrandt etc) all night long lol.
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RB has really good long run pace on the softs as shown in FP2. But it is a bold gamble on full fuel, and used softs that already have some laps on them. What makes it sketchier is if they get hot and induce understeer or oversteer and Max hits those sketchy curbs. That would not be good because that might actually be a tire blow out.
Part of the equation: the track temperature drops during dusk and darkness. That allows to stretch the softs longevity a little more during the race. Not substantial but enough to pit later.

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