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DUH CAR · 12-07-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW Novice

My brakes continue to squeak, even after the pads had been replaced in early November. Happens when cold and is noisy for about first couple of kilometres. My neighbours have complained, especially if i leave early, excruciating noise!

Talk to your dealer. They got some news this week. The old fix of just replacing pads isn't the fix as the pads are the problem.....

Phil777 · 12-07-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DUH CAR

Talk to your dealer. They got some news this week. The old fix of just replacing pads isn't the fix as the pads are the problem.....

Have an appointment booked at Parkview next week. The brakes have become incredibly annoying - when my wife backed out of the driveway yesterday, my daughter thought it was the 'squeaky-brake' garbage truck... Wonder what Parkview will do to address this problem? I'm also having the two recalls done at the same time.

DUH CAR · 12-07-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil777

Have an appointment booked at Parkview next week. The brakes have become incredibly annoying - when my wife backed out of the driveway yesterday, my daughter thought it was the 'squeaky-brake' garbage truck... Wonder what Parkview will do to address this problem? I'm also having the two recalls done at the same time.

Sent you a PM.

I am thinking that they cut in an engineering change for the brakes on the 2.8i that Canada gets as nobody else in the world seems to have this problem.

WiredRacing · 12-07-2011, 02:11 PM

is everyone parking outside or inside?

I'm thinking it's probably the thin layer of rust that forms when the car is sitting in a moist environment for a few days. Some days I hear it, others I don't. Parked outside right now while I tidy up th egarage. Should have it back in soon.

This certainly is a common issue with carbon-metallic (more a performance pad than typical street) pad. Anyhow sounds like somethings on the horizon, so I guess I'll just wait and get all three issues addressed in one day.

DUH CAR · 12-07-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredRacing

is everyone parking outside or inside?

I'm thinking it's probably the thin layer of rust that forms when the car is sitting in a moist environment for a few days. Some days I hear it, others I don't. Parked outside right now while I tidy up th egarage. Should have it back in soon.

Outside, but that shouldn't matter. They have their second fix. App't next week for me.

Phil777 · 12-10-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredRacing

is everyone parking outside or inside?

I'm thinking it's probably the thin layer of rust that forms when the car is sitting in a moist environment for a few days. Some days I hear it, others I don't. Parked outside right now while I tidy up th egarage. Should have it back in soon.

This certainly is a common issue with carbon-metallic (more a performance pad than typical street) pad. Anyhow sounds like somethings on the horizon, so I guess I'll just wait and get all three issues addressed in one day.

We park inside all the time - looking forward to getting this problem fixed this week.

mrm83 · 12-10-2011, 02:35 PM

got my brake pads replaced again yesterday (2nd time) and it started to squeak today.

id say dont bother replacing the "defected" pads until they come out with new ones.. its a waste of time.

DUH CAR · 12-10-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mrm83

got my brake pads replaced again yesterday (2nd time) and it started to squeak today.

id say dont bother replacing the "defected" pads until they come out with new ones.. its a waste of time.

Were the part numbers the same each time? Why didn't they put on the new ones? What did they say? What dealer?

mrm83 · 12-11-2011, 11:22 AM

bmw toronto. i think its the same pads (need to check the papers), the service manager said something like there isn't a bulletin board for a recall yet, and all the pads are the same right now. so whats gonna happen is when they do get a bulletin board, theyll call us in and install the new ones.

he told me that the squeaking will probably start again in 6000km (with the newly installed ones), but guess what.. it started at 30km.

DUH CAR · 12-11-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mrm83

bmw toronto. i think its the same pads (need to check the papers), the service manager said something like there isn't a bulletin board for a recall yet, and all the pads are the same right now. so whats gonna happen is when they do get a bulletin board, theyll call us in and install the new ones.

he told me that the squeaking will probably start again in 6000km (with the newly installed ones), but guess what.. it started at 30km.

Lol. I am going to take note of the part numbers I had before and what I will get this Wednesday.

dinamo · 12-11-2011, 05:40 PM

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Lol. I am going to take note of the part numbers I had before and what I will get this Wednesday.

The part number will be the same all the time : Rear : 34 21 6 790 761 Front :34 11 6 797 858 + sensor 34 35 6 792 561 .
They have to get the pads from different supplier ,like Bosch or Lemfoerder ,etc.

Keep in mind, BMW does NOT manufacture the brake pads, even they've got a BMW label on it.

mrm83 · 12-11-2011, 09:01 PM

i looked at my papers and the numbers were different first time and second time.. they only changed my front pads and not rear ones.

Douggie · 12-11-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredRacing

is everyone parking outside or inside?

I'm thinking it's probably the thin layer of rust that forms when the car is sitting in a moist environment for a few days. Some days I hear it, others I don't. Parked outside right now while I tidy up th egarage. Should have it back in soon.

This certainly is a common issue with carbon-metallic (more a performance pad than typical street) pad. Anyhow sounds like somethings on the horizon, so I guess I'll just wait and get all three issues addressed in one day.

Yes, I strongly believe that this has to do with the type of brake pads that BMW chose. Brake pads have different ranges of operating temperatures. Normal pads meant for daily use will lose braking power if it is overheated (if you bring it on track). Racing or street pads can operate at higher temperatures, but does not perform well until it is warmed up and will really squeak when the pad is cold.

And with the winter temps, it just makes things worse.

dinamo · 12-11-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mrm83

i looked at my papers and the numbers were different first time and second time.. they only changed my front pads and not rear ones.

hmmm .. interesting ... ETK catalog's part numbers are based on VIN number or model/year/Market -US,Europ,etc and it shouldn't change .

Strange

DUH CAR · 12-12-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mrm83

i looked at my papers and the numbers were different first time and second time..

Could you please post what they were? Thanks!

Canadian eh! · 12-12-2011, 08:19 PM

Got my two recalls today and mentioned the brakes....asked them to only do them if there was a new solution.

They installed new pads, part number is different then what Dinamo quoted above the new are: 34-11-6-799-166 and there's a PUMA number for this now..4955397. I have not checked real oem yet to see if there is a match for the new part number. It is likely a 3 series part.

We will see if they make a difference.

mrm83 · 12-13-2011, 06:16 PM

1st time
34-11-6-797-858 BRAKE PADS
34-35-6-792-561 L-BRAKE PAD WEAR SE

2nd time
34-11-6-799-166 BRAKE PADS
PUMA 4955397

dinamo · 12-13-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mrm83

1st time
34-11-6-797-858 BRAKE PADS
34-35-6-792-561 L-BRAKE PAD WEAR SE

2nd time
34-11-6-799-166 BRAKE PADS
PUMA 4955397

34-11-6-799-166 EU market , X1 2.3d part number .

34-11-6-797-858 - NA Market, BMW X1 28i/35i part number

Canadian eh! · 12-13-2011, 10:19 PM

It is also the part number for a 328i brake pad.

My guess is they tried a harder low dust pad for north America on the x1. They are now switching those that complain to the standard rest of world pad.

Ran them a bit today and the normal BMW brake dust is back! Just like the good old days! The first set had no brake dust at all. So far no squeaking either .

DUH CAR · 12-14-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian eh!

It is also the part number for a 328i brake pad.

My guess is they tried a harder low dust pad for north America on the x1. They are now switching those that complain to the standard rest of world pad.

Ran them a bit today and the normal BMW brake dust is back! Just like the good old days! The first set had no brake dust at all. So far no squeaking either .

LOL. I got the new ones today too. You're probably right about the brake dust as the wheels are a lot cleaner on the X1 vs. my 335.

I'll take the dust over the squealing. The dust just forces me to wash the car......

Phil777 · 12-14-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DUH CAR

LOL. I got the new ones today too. You're probably right about the brake dust as the wheels are a lot cleaner on the X1 vs. my 335.

Just have ours in today at Parkview for the recall and the brakes, as well as the interior trunk light, and the auto wipers that have a mind of their own, and the seat belt tensioner. How much did we pay for this vehicle??

By the way, I asked the Service Adviser about the holes in the engine compartment that are exposed to the left front wheel well (the ones that most of us have covered over with duct tape in true handyman (and handywoman) fashion!) - he noted that the holes were there to provide additional cooling to the turbocharger since it apparently runs very hot in this vehicle close to the underside of the hood, and advised me to take the duct tape off to let it run cooler. He said it was more of an issue in the summer than the winter for obvious reasons... Any thoughts on this? Has anyone heard anything else (other than in the separate thread) on this issue?

By the way, DC - must have just missed you at Parkview - I saw a Deep Sea Blue X1 being driven my one of the service techs, and wondered if it might be yours...

DUH CAR · 12-14-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil777

By the way, DC - must have just missed you at Parkview - I saw a Deep Sea Blue X1 being driven by one of the service techs, and wondered if it might be yours...

Yep, that was ours. Had the clamp and pads done and gone by 11am.

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12-07-2011, 02:11 PM	#48
WiredRacing New Member Drives: 2012 X1 28i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mississauga Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	is everyone parking outside or inside? I'm thinking it's probably the thin layer of rust that forms when the car is sitting in a moist environment for a few days. Some days I hear it, others I don't. Parked outside right now while I tidy up th egarage. Should have it back in soon. This certainly is a common issue with carbon-metallic (more a performance pad than typical street) pad. Anyhow sounds like somethings on the horizon, so I guess I'll just wait and get all three issues addressed in one day.

12-10-2011, 02:35 PM	#51
mrm83 Private Drives: x1 Join Date: May 2011 Location: toronto Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	got my brake pads replaced again yesterday (2nd time) and it started to squeak today. id say dont bother replacing the "defected" pads until they come out with new ones.. its a waste of time.

12-11-2011, 11:22 AM	#53
mrm83 Private Drives: x1 Join Date: May 2011 Location: toronto Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	bmw toronto. i think its the same pads (need to check the papers), the service manager said something like there isn't a bulletin board for a recall yet, and all the pads are the same right now. so whats gonna happen is when they do get a bulletin board, theyll call us in and install the new ones. he told me that the squeaking will probably start again in 6000km (with the newly installed ones), but guess what.. it started at 30km.

12-11-2011, 09:01 PM	#56
mrm83 Private Drives: x1 Join Date: May 2011 Location: toronto Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	i looked at my papers and the numbers were different first time and second time.. they only changed my front pads and not rear ones.

12-12-2011, 08:19 PM	#60
Canadian eh! Enlisted Member Drives: BMW X1 xDrive 28i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kind of obvious! Posts: 42 iTrader: (0)	Got my two recalls today and mentioned the brakes....asked them to only do them if there was a new solution. They installed new pads, part number is different then what Dinamo quoted above the new are: 34-11-6-799-166 and there's a PUMA number for this now..4955397. I have not checked real oem yet to see if there is a match for the new part number. It is likely a 3 series part. We will see if they make a difference.

12-13-2011, 06:16 PM	#61
mrm83 Private Drives: x1 Join Date: May 2011 Location: toronto Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	1st time 34-11-6-797-858 BRAKE PADS 34-35-6-792-561 L-BRAKE PAD WEAR SE 2nd time 34-11-6-799-166 BRAKE PADS PUMA 4955397

12-13-2011, 10:19 PM	#63
Canadian eh! Enlisted Member Drives: BMW X1 xDrive 28i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kind of obvious! Posts: 42 iTrader: (0)	It is also the part number for a 328i brake pad. My guess is they tried a harder low dust pad for north America on the x1. They are now switching those that complain to the standard rest of world pad. Ran them a bit today and the normal BMW brake dust is back! Just like the good old days! The first set had no brake dust at all. So far no squeaking either .