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      11-09-2013, 11:41 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by bluejay_el View Post
This is totally not worth arguing ... but I will join the argument

1. Please dont make the assumption that the mirror setup came from the specialist, whoever you are referring to (you trying to imply something with double quotes). Just an FYI, the mirror setup I was referring to came from one of the head instructor of BMW Performance Driving School, who had 30 years of road racing experience


2. Please dont reason out that the blind spot monitoring system (or whatever latest side-mirror innovation) are being offered by car companies just to cater the needs of people who use the "conventional mirror setup". It's just for ADDED convenience and safety...regardless of how you want to use your mirrors. period. Just like back up cameras, self parking cars, or front an bumper sensors


3. bosstones created the thread because of his issue with the blind spot on an X1 (which apparently doesnt come with a blind spot monitoring system). From what I see, people are posting here to solve the blind spot issue. Your posts doesnt seem to contribute anything to solve this

4. If you are an advocate of the conventional side mirror adjustment, feel free to start your own thread (or bump an existing one)
Bluejay-el,

Dont be a hypocrit. While you are pointing that I deviated this thread, you still continue with your arguments.

1. Like hou dont care about my driving instructor who also has over 40 years in driving and was a very good one (few first places in racing in Europe) , in the same way I dont care for yours. It doesnt matter from who is coming though, your instructor is wrong and is more focused on North American driving where:
-Roads are boring straight without curves and so on,
-vehicles are huge, mainly trucks, not like in Europe where Corsa, smart, Punto, Polo, C2, etc. are very popular and everywhere
-roads are large and very few have only one lane
-not the same amount of byciclist and motocycles that share the road with you.

2. Your explanation with "added safety" is (pardon my french) BS, because when you adjust that Ford or BMW mirror (who also has a second mirror incorporated) in conformity with your instructor guidance, that specific mirror will look after the birds somewhere. Do some thinking before posting and use some common technical sense before you are arguing. We didnt talk about blind spot sensors system, ok? Anyway, if your setting is so good why people need it? Probably nobody will pay for this system if that "wide" setting is enough and so good. (Did you know that the system sensors are actually designed to complete the traditional mirror setting?)

3. See my first paragraph about your hypocritic message. Anyway, are not you the one who suggested the "wide" setting on the mirrors in this thread? How we should call your post then?

4. I had a case where the guy killed a cyclist and the reason was that he didnt see the guy. You know why? Because he adjusted the mirrors like your setting.
Go in Europe, France, Italy, etc. and set your mirrors like that. When you drive in those wonderfule curved and narrow streets and your mirrors are set to check the leafes, come back and tell us how many people you hit with your car.

Bootom line, this is not a thread jacking. I consider that is a good add to the subject. Every discussion is constructive. There is no need to open a new thread, I don't wan't to prove my point just for the sake of it, I just to bring to your attention that your setting is actually wrong and it might be ok only on a straight in line higway with large lane. That's all.

Yesterday, I was mentioning that the vehicles are different and that the cars are not the only ones on the road. With your setting, motorcycles and bycicles can not be seen. Also, I was reading few years ago an article about how your setting is also making the eyes tired too soon because it rquires a different focus, when the traditional setting is actually help the vision by "flowing" from your car further.

Anyway, I found an article that might work for others that are interested. There are actually few points that are still missing from the article, like the case where both cars decided to get out from that lane in the same time, but for now it will do.
From my point of view drive how you want, I dont care, it is your car, your life.

Have fun and be safe!

http://www.driveandstayalive.com/art...he-mirrors.htm

To the Thread starter: I keep my mirrors on traditional setting and I bought some small suplimentar blind spot mirrors that I attached to the original ones. I didnt do it for the X1 though, but do it if you need it; in my opinion this your best setting.

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